i saw this last night as well. special effects were good, action scenes were good, megatron and prime looked great. i loved that they kept megatron’s contempt for starscream in the film. prime ripping off bonecrusher’s head was quite refreshing.
complaints:
the autobots show up after 45-1 hour into the film. that is strange when the film is supposed to be about them.
megatron and starscream have maybe 20 minutes of screen time.
prime seems weaker than megatron. i always saw them as equals.
stupid kid and girlfriend, and military have WAY too much screen time.
overall, i guess these are minor compared to the fact that i get to see my childhood heroes in a live action film. the effects were breathtaking. bumblebees battle/chase scene with barricade was amazing.
For the people complaining about the military presence:
I know it’s just a movie, but just for the sake of argument let’s say that something like this movie (a bunch of extraterrestrial robots land on Earth and wage all-out war) were actually happening. Who do you think the first people to step up and do something about it would be? Joe Bob, your local NRA spokesman, and his townie militia? Or the combined efforts of all of our military forces?
I don’t get why people seem so surprised that the military plays a large role in a movie about war on Earth.
i agree that prime seemed weaker than megatron… A LOT weaker to me. it seemed like prime was just fighting purely to buy time, and never had a shot at actually defeating him. it really seemed like megatron was beating the shit out of him. I wanted to see the classic, ooh… prime throws down megatron, ooh… megatron throws down prime, you know, back and forth… but it seemed like prime was always getting thrown around.
also, the way Shia just turned and shoved the thing into megatron’s chest… how was it that easy, and why didn’t prime tell him to do it in the first place? Just questions, really… not really critiques of the movie.
besides that, i absolutely loved this movie. it was amazing.
[quote]kkeane wrote:
i agree that prime seemed weaker than megatron… A LOT weaker to me. it seemed like prime was just fighting purely to buy time, and never had a shot at actually defeating him. it really seemed like megatron was beating the shit out of him. I wanted to see the classic, ooh… prime throws down megatron, ooh… megatron throws down prime, you know, back and forth… but it seemed like prime was always getting thrown around.
also, the way Shia just turned and shoved the thing into megatron’s chest… how was it that easy, and why didn’t prime tell him to do it in the first place? Just questions, really… not really critiques of the movie.
besides that, i absolutely loved this movie. it was amazing. [/quote]
Heh, in addition to those questions I’ll add my own. Why in the hell did they decide to go into the city…other than a huge fight there is more interesting than a huge fight in the desert? Wouldn’t that be the exact opposite of what they’d want to do?
I guess I wouldn’t have minded if they kind of just ended up in the city, but they actually formulated their plan around making into the city. Collateral damage anyone?
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Why in the hell did they decide to go into the city…other than a huge fight there is more interesting than a huge fight in the desert? Wouldn’t that be the exact opposite of what they’d want to do?
I guess I wouldn’t have minded if they kind of just ended up in the city, but they actually formulated their plan around making into the city. Collateral damage anyone?[/quote]
I may have an answer for that one. I think the Autobots and the military figured it would be a lot easier for Bumblebee and Witwicky to scramble around, hide, and buy enough time for the jets to fly in and pick up the Allspark in a city than it would be if they were just running around out in the middle of the desert. Pretty easy targets out there.
On the other hand, going into the city was definitely more dangerous to the humans, who the Autobots are all about protecting. I guess when you weigh the two out, however, protecting the Allspark was more important at that point. Kind of a Catch-22, really.
At any rate, this is obviously all just conjecture.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
magnusjs wrote:
I’m also not all that crazy about all the military propaganda that Michael Bay includes a rather hefty dose of in many of his movies. To me, as a norwegian, it really jumped out at me when I watched the movie. Is it equally obvious to americans?
From the get…Aim High. It is the new recruiting tactic for the US government. They get to parade all their super-sweet kill machines around and show their super bad-ass USAF Combat Control rockin’ rounds down range to get all the 14 year olds pumped for military service and in exchange the film producers get a free set. DoD and Hollywood working together in the land of the free and home of the…
John Turturro…how could you?
I live in a military town. Most of the audience to night was military. What exactly was wrong about presenting the military the way they did? Propaganda? Because they were competent?[/quote]
Everyone knows they are all illiterate and can’t tie their own shoes. [/sarcasm]
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
magnusjs wrote:
I’m also not all that crazy about all the military propaganda that Michael Bay includes a rather hefty dose of in many of his movies. To me, as a norwegian, it really jumped out at me when I watched the movie. Is it equally obvious to americans?
From the get…Aim High. It is the new recruiting tactic for the US government. They get to parade all their super-sweet kill machines around and show their super bad-ass USAF Combat Control rockin’ rounds down range to get all the 14 year olds pumped for military service and in exchange the film producers get a free set. DoD and Hollywood working together in the land of the free and home of the…
John Turturro…how could you?
I live in a military town. Most of the audience to night was military. What exactly was wrong about presenting the military the way they did? Propaganda? Because they were competent?
Everyone knows they are all illiterate and can’t tie their own shoes. [/sarcasm][/quote]
It just amazes me that a movie gets made where the characters that represent the military are actually acting realistically (they were possibly the most realistic characters in the whole movie), and someone claims that makes the whole movie an ad for the Air Force.
I’m in the Air Force. There were a couple of guys walking out of the movie claiming that the movie was “anti-government” because of the plot involving the government keeping secrets from the general public. It shows that people see what the want to see…because how can it be BOTH?
The movie is now “anti-government” and “military propaganda”? How the hell do you pull that off? Doesn’t the fact that people can read into it both scenarios make it neither?
Either way, as far as Prime appearing weaker than Megatron, I felt it may have looked that way because the entire time, Prime was worried about avoiding hurting or accidentally stepping another human. You can look a lot more brutal when you don’t give a shit about your surroundings.
That is also why Prime would never tell someone to stick the cube into Megatron. Prime wanted to avoid that. That is why he called Megatron “brother” after he was “killed”.
Unbelievable. I was clapping and laughing like a little kid for most of the movie. As someone mentioned, I didn’t like how strong Megatron was compared to Optimus. They are supposed to be equals, and I would have liked to have seen a better final battle. In any event, I had more fun watching this than maybe anyother movie, ever.
I live in a military town. Most of the audience to night was military. What exactly was wrong about presenting the military the way they did? Propaganda? Because they were competent?[/quote]
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Unbelievable. I was clapping and laughing like a little kid for most of the movie. As someone mentioned, I didn’t like how strong Megatron was compared to Optimus. They are supposed to be equals, and I would have liked to have seen a better final battle. In any event, I had more fun watching this than maybe anyother movie, ever.
Now all we need is a live action Thundercats.[/quote]
I felt the same way. The voice overs were perfect (No one could do Optimus like Peter Cullen). The agility of the robots couldn’t have been better. There were many scenes where there was so much action that it was hard to keep up with who was where, but I think that will only help dvd sales.
I live in a military town. Most of the audience to night was military. What exactly was wrong about presenting the military the way they did? Propaganda? Because they were competent?
you in Killeen,Prof X??[/quote]
No. I am from Texas. I don’t currently live IN Texas.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I live in a military town. Most of the audience to night was military. What exactly was wrong about presenting the military the way they did? Propaganda? Because they were competent?
you in Killeen,Prof X??
No. I am from Texas. I don’t currently live IN Texas.[/quote]
Oh,ok…where about in TX? My brother-in-law is in Colorado Springs…u?
I saw it this afternoon and enjoyed it quite a bit. To be honest I expected absolute shit, since it was a Michel Bay film, but he did a surprisingly good job. I loved the fact that they got the guy who originaly did the voice of Optimus Prime.
I got annoyed with the boy and girl thing that filled the first hour of the flick. But that amplified my excitement when the Autobots finally arrived to throw down.
It also bothered me that Prime seemed much weaker than Megatron. If he was holding back because he was afraid of harming the humans they could have sold that easily by having him go out of his way to protect a human when he could have exploited an advantage over Megatron. They did that all the time on the cartoon.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I saw it this afternoon and enjoyed it quite a bit. To be honest I expected absolute shit, since it was a Michel Bay film, but he did a surprisingly good job. [/quote]
What’s with all the Michael Bay hate?
I wasn’t a fan of Armageddon or Pearl Harbor, but I definitely liked Bad Boys 2, The Island, The Rock, and Transformers.
I mean, it’s not like the guy doesn’t how to make an action movie.
I still don’t get how people think Optimus Prime was weak…and he was obviously SMARTER. I didn’t think he was weak when he gave BoneCrusher a Cuban necktie after the highway chase scene…that was bad as fuck.
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
I saw it this afternoon and enjoyed it quite a bit. To be honest I expected absolute shit, since it was a Michel Bay film, but he did a surprisingly good job.
What’s with all the Michael Bay hate?
I wasn’t a fan of Armageddon or Pearl Harbor, but I definitely liked Bad Boys 2, The Island, The Rock, and Transformers.
I mean, it’s not like the guy doesn’t how to make an action movie.[/quote]
In my opinion, everything that I’ve ever seen that he did before Transformers sucked, and everyone that I know who has worked for him (production assistants, the low guys on the totem pole) say he is worthless, despicable human being. I wouldn’t use the term hate, because I don’t feel anything for him as a person either way, but I decided a long time ago, I think after Pearl Harbor, that I would never spend money on one of his movies again.
Also, he really doesn’t know how to do action. Most of the time he substitutes confusion for choreography. Which was the only thing that bothered me in the Transformers. But he’s not the only one these days.
