[quote]ephrem wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:…who’s pro-abortion here? Abortion is limited by law already, and altough the law does not prevent excesses, it does the job just fine. If you want to limit the number of abortions performed you start by educating children and make contraception readily available, not by denying 150 million people basic human rights. Just think: if Roe vs Wade gets overturned, you can never say “Land of the Free!” anymore…
“Choices” can be limited when your “choice” effects others. I can’t shoot my neighbor in the foot, so we aren’t free by your ignorant definition of freedom anyway.
I would retort with some disparaging remark about the stat of your country, but I honestly don’t find it important enough to even Google much less read about. But thanks for your thoughts anyways.
…it isn’t disparaging if indeed abortion is outlawed, because that means that half your countries population lost it’s right to self determination, and is subject to the state. A fetus is not an other, it may become an other, but until it reaches a certain point in it’s development, it’s not an other and therefore does not have the same rights a living, breathing person has…
The Fetus
At this point the embryo is developed enough to call a fetus. All organs and structures found in a full-term newborn are present.
Weeks 9 to 12 – 3 inches, 1 ounce: The head comprises nearly half of the fetus? size and the face is well formed. The eyelids close now and will not reopen until about the 28th week. The tooth buds for the baby teeth appear. The genitalia are now clearly male or female.
Weeks 13 to 16 – 6 inches: These weeks mark the beginning of the second trimester. A lthough the skin of the fetus is almost transparent, fine hair develops on the head called lanugo. The fetus makes active movements, including sucking, which leads to some swallowing of the amniotic fluid. A thin dark substance called meconium is made in the intestinal tract. The heart beats120-150 beats per minute and brain waves detectable.
Weeks 17 to 20 – 8 inches: Eyebrows and lashes appear and nails appear on fingers and toes. This is an exciting time for the parents: The can mother feel the fetus moving (“quickening”) and the fetal heartbeat can be heard with a stethoscope.
Weeks 21 to 24 – 11.2 inches, 1 lb. 10 oz.: All the eye components are developed, footprints and fingerprints are forming, and the entire body covered in cream-cheese-like vernix caseosa. The fetus now has a startle reflex.
Weeks 25 to 28 – 15 inches, 2 lbs. 11 oz.: Now we are entering the third trimester. During these weeks, we see rapid brain development. The nervous system is developed enough to control some body functions, and the eyelids open and close. A baby born at this time may survive, but the chances of complications and death are high.
Weeks 29 to 32 – 15 -17 inches, 4 lbs. 6 oz.: These weeks see further development towards independent life: There is a rapid increase in the amount of body fat and the fetus begins storing its own iron, calcium, and phosphorus. The bones are fully developed, but still soft and pliable. There are rhythmic breathing movements present, the fetal body temperature is partially self-controlled, and there is increased central nervous system control over body functions.
Weeks 33 to 36 – 16 -19 inches, 5 lbs. 12 oz. to 6 lbs. 12 oz.: The lanugo (body hair) begins to disappear. A baby born at 36 weeks has a high chance of survival.
Weeks 37 to 40 – 19 - 21 inches 7 or 8 pounds: At 38 weeks, the fetus is considered full term. It fills the entire uterus, and its head is the same size around as its shoulders. The mother supplies the fetus with the antibodies it needs to protect it against disease.
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/genpsyfetaldev.html
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That’s a slippery slope…So when does life begin? Inquiring minds want to know.