[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Hitler got his idea for killing the Jews, ie ghettos, starvation, concentration camps ect, from the USSR. They eventually used gas chambers to speed up the process, but it was all done in the Ukraine before.[/quote]
I thought Hitler got his ideas for killing Jews from the American governments policies and actions with American Indians? Hitler said as much and his policies were similar to the way American Indians were rounded up and marched to present day Oklahoma.
Dustin
[quote]Dustin wrote:
I thought Hitler got his ideas for killing Jews from the American governments policies and actions with American Indians? Hitler said as much and his policies were similar to the way American Indians were rounded up and marched to present day Oklahoma.
Dustin[/quote]
I read where Hitler said America should not complain about Germany’s policies toward Jews in light of what we did to the Indians, but never heard any one say they based the Holocaust on what America did.
They put the Jews into Ghettos and they were going to starve them to death like the Russians did during the artificial famine in the Ukraine, that’s all I know.
Can you find a quote from any Nazi official who said the Holocaust was based upon what America did to the Indians?
For that matter, the Holocaust could have just as well been based upon the treatment of the Tasmanians, right?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
‘Bush is evil.’
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Unfortunately, such a sentiment is difficult to argue with. However George Bush, or any other politician isn’t “America”, rather they are merely individuals who have been granted, via the electoral process, a monopoly on force.
In general politicians, regardless of nation, typically operate with an exploitative attitude in relation to the populations they rule. In “democracies” politicians, while unable to reap the complete benefits of exploitative rule, nevertheless acquire the “plunder”, if you will, they desire during their tenure. Due ot the ability to correct direct taxes as well as the so-called “hidden tax” (increasing the money supply) his appears to be one of the reasons for the continued expansion of government power throughout Western civilization.
In the United States, unending wars and what should probably be referred to as the “bogeyman of the present” have enabled the largely unchecked growth of government during the last century.
It should be noted that George Bush and his administration, despite his [and their] Republican credentials, has expanded government at a greater speed than any administration since Lyndon B. Johnson. Both parties are in many respects virtually identical to one another with little dissent against the status-quo.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
America is the most dangerous country on the planet to them and so forth.
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Perhaps in some respects, the above statement holds quite a bit of weight. This is directly a reaction to an interventionist foreign policy. The European nations, while it’s people have yet to question the Marxian doctrines that operate their domestic policies, have at least learned to discard the notion of empire. A lesson learned however only after seemingly endless centuries of bitter conflict and imperialist-oriented government policies.
Unfortunately for the European nations, they’re unlikely to recognize the folly of Marxian social policy until the situation becomes completely untenable.
Both Americans and Europeans have numerous existential problems in relation to their respective governments and their subsequent policies. These nations would be wise to observe and attempt to correct their own respective politico-economic follies. One perhaps being too imperialist and neo-mercantilist, the other probably too [quasi]-Marxian in their socio-economic ideas.