The Wilding of Sarah Palin

[quote]K2000 wrote:
John S. wrote:
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Before you say, its a user submitted editorial, if anything like that was ever posted on a real news site(FOX) it would have never been posted. CNN not only posted it but kept it around.

Please don’t make me find offensive comments on the Fox News website. Your argument is stupid, but what did I expect?

Yeah, Sarah Palin really got a raw deal because she’s a woman. Palin being a woman wasn’t one of her few interesting qualities, it was used against her.

Now please donate.
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You have to be one of the most dense people on the planet. If you bothered to pay attention to anything I said you would find I do not think she should be president.

My argument is valid. Go find something on fox that attacks Obama for being black. That is the equivalent of what CNN did to Sarah.

The only one looking stupid right now is you.

By the way I will save you some time. There is nothing on Fox attacking Obama because he is black.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This argument that Palin is treated no differently than Hillary blah blah blah[/quote]

Wrong, the point is how much WORSE Hillary Clinton has been treated by the media, and the opposition.

“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.” That was a joke told by John McCain at a Republican fundraising event. You could fill a book with this kind of stuff.

Reading this thread, Sarah Palin supporters are apparently whiny crybabies who can dish it out, but they can’t take it. In other words, a bunch of pussies.

PLEASE DONATE NOW. Help Sarah help you!

push, the logic of your last post was off. a C.U.N.T. poster is not “legitimate criticism”; it is a nasty ad hominem attack.

when i saw this video, the first thing i thought of was this thread…a little conservative misogyny, anyone?

[quote]John S. wrote:
If you bothered to pay attention to anything I said… [/quote]

Woah woah woah, lets not get carried away. I only skim over most of the drivel you copy & paste. I don’t have time to fully read through every post you make here… looks like about 20 posts a day. Some people do have a life, outside of this forum.

[quote]K2000 wrote:
John S. wrote:
If you bothered to pay attention to anything I said…

Woah woah woah, lets not get carried away. I only skim over most of the drivel you copy & paste. I don’t have time to fully read through every post you make here… looks like about 20 posts a day. Some people do have a life, outside of this forum.
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RUN FOREST RUN!!! Don’t stop you are almost out of PWI. Looks like you took your beating for the month. Can’t wait to see you next month.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I said this before and will say now again for emphasis. Besides my many times repeated view that I like Sarah because I identify with her roots, upbringing and social station, the MAIN reason I defend her is I look around and see who hates her the most - nationally as well as here on PWI.

If for no other reason…when I survey who the haterz are it reassures me I must be on the right track. It actually has much, much less to do with a strong political philosophy alignment. In fact, she may not be libertarian and conservative enough for my tastes.[/quote]

I don’t particularly like her because I don’t feel like she ever did an adequate job of expressing any unique ideas. When asked questions she was very bad at articulating her ideas, at best she would just respond with classic republican paradigms like, “we need to lower taxes that cripple small business”. Not that this idea is wrong, it’s just nothing unique or intelligent. In other words, sarah never managed to bring anything new and valuable to the table.

I also felt like her upbringing, although unique and interesting, did not adequately represent the nation. You don’t hear of too many governors of Alaska running for the vice presidency.

She also pretty dumb, relatively speaking. She was just way out of her league in my opinion.

[quote]debraD wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
debraD wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
debraD wrote:
It comes as no surprise to me that misogyny exists in the left. A brief conversation with liberals about Anne Coulter will tell all on that matter, never mind Palin. I have no love for either, by the way.

But, given the choice between right wing misogyny and left wing misogyny I’ll take left wing anytime. At least even if for the right or wrong reasons, we still support the same issues somewhat. Bear in mind though, when you Americans say left, to my leftist Canadian brain, you mean centre.

I like the my view of women, you can work if you want, but I’d rather you stay home and let me do the money making. Mostly because I fucking love pies, and it’s hard to make a pie sitting in a business meeting.

Well my view is more fiscally responsible since I probably make more money than you and can buy pies better than anything I could bake :stuck_out_tongue:

You got me there, I do not bring home very much money. However, that is because I only pay myself when I need the cash, and being single means I am responsible only for myself (besides my family) most of the time. That being said, all my personal items such as my vehicles, house, etc. were paid for in full.

Edit: Although, I do not know how much money you actually make (I’ll show you mine if you show me yours?), so I could not say if you make more than me.

Heh well I was just making a point and don’t plan on sharing that (besides I could just make it up) but I was also making an assumption based on what I think is your age. :wink:

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Well, I get your point and my age is stated in my profile. My point though is that just like for almost all of human life women have worked, but just recently in America have women been in a position of power or in the corporate world (not really relative to how long America has been established but in history). Women have been everything from farmers, to handmaids, to ministers (in the Bible, eh), but I much rather her first role be at home.

I am not talking about the stay at home mother who sits on the couch and eats pastries. More of an example like my grandmother, she is a great mother to my four aunts and uncle and my father, as well to the dozens of grand babies, and great grand babies she has taken care of. Sweetest lady I ever met, she also laid out some beatings that even made my dad run like hell out of the house once. She baked everyday (still does, yum pie), but she was also the secretary (now renamed executive secretary) for forty years to the top school official in the state. However, she never complained because she knew what responsibility was, and she never thought of ditching the family role for the corporate role, or vice-versa, though both were demanding. She never felt that she needed to choose, and my grandpa never asked her to.

This is my biased above, I like that women are happy in the work field. It gives me some eye candy to look at. I just do not think that ditching your family to “climb the corporate ladder” is being responsible. Same as if I was married and I did not have kids sure she could climb the corporate ladder as high as she wants, but once it she forgets her responsibility to me, her family, that is not right. Just like I would not expect my wife to be happy if all I did was make money and fuck around and not remember my responsibility to her.

P.S. I make under median income in America after taxes.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Nor did you see me refer to “C.U.N.T.” as legitimate criticism, did you? Alas, thou knave, thou shalt strive to improve thy reading comprehension so that thou maketh not such a grievous error again.
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In another thread, you call Senator Mary Landrieu a “whore” and post a pic of a prostitute. You’re a perfect example of a whiny little crybaby who can dish it out, but you can’t take it.

Plus you say you like Palin, based on the people who don’t like her. That’s pretty fucking stupid. Are you still in high school too?

[quote]John S. wrote:
RUN FOREST RUN!!! Don’t stop you are almost out of PWI. Looks like you took your beating for the month. Can’t wait to see you next month.[/quote]

I’m only going to discuss Sarah Palin with grown-ups who have DONATED to her campaign. Put your money where your mouth is.

SHE’S A PITBULL, SHE NEVER QUITS*

*(except for the Governor’s office.)

push…that was the only thing you could’ve been referring to unless…oh, right. you’re a conservative who chooses to engage in interlocking monologue because actually responding to people’s comments requires honest dialog, which, given the absurdity of your positions, would be impossible for you to survive.

[quote]K2000 wrote:
John S. wrote:
RUN FOREST RUN!!! Don’t stop you are almost out of PWI. Looks like you took your beating for the month. Can’t wait to see you next month.

I’m only going to discuss Sarah Palin with grown-ups who have DONATED to her campaign. Put your money where your mouth is.

SHE’S A PITBULL, SHE NEVER QUITS*

*(except for the Governor’s office.)[/quote]

How stupid are you? I won’t donate to her. The people that receive my money are Peter Schiff, Rand Paul, and hopefully in 2012 Ron Paul.

The only one acting like a kid here is you, I would bet most of the people have you on block.

(Taps foot, waits for a grown-up to come along who actually cares about Palin enough to donate to her)

If Sarah Palin can’t handle the pressure from Katie Couric, how well could she possibly do against someone like Vladimir Putin? Palin is a joke.

It’s not about abortion for me. Sorry. Never was. I’m deeply ambivalent as to where I stand myself, and I’m certainly not so confident as to make that a make-or-break issue in my political choices.

The social issue that matters to me primarily is gay civil rights. I think Palin has a weak record there, to put it mildly.

Also I happen not to like populist politicians. It’s not entirely a justified sentiment, I know – quite a few admirable leaders were populists – but my gut reaction is to be wary when a politician makes a big show of his or her folksiness and anti-elitism. It’s an emotional rather than a rational tactic, and that’s why it strikes me as slippery.

Now, to see her speak, I like her. She seems warm, and sincerely committed. She’s pretty, she’s a formidable campaigner, and she seems like an excellent mother. But I like a lot of people. I thought Bush was likable. I can’t think of anybody I know personally whom I wholeheartedly dislike. I definitely think she’d lead the country in the wrong direction if she ever held office (I tend to think it’s unlikely but I’ve seen strong arguments that she’ll run.) Most of her political beliefs go emphatically against my conscience. But the nice thing about a democracy is that we can work out our disagreements at the ballot box.

The point I was trying to make is that you can be a “good” Palin opponent – not a sexist, not a one-issue voter – and that I think I am one. You’re certainly entitled to be on her side if that’s how you feel.