The War on Drugs

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Taxing “taboo” goods just gives government an incentive to create more demand for said goods. For example, government uses the tax dollars from tobacco to fund anti-smoking campaigns which amounts to free televised commercials for Big Tobacco.

I wonder how many people sitting at home have said to them selves after watching such ads, “Wow, I better quit,” and not, “hey, I need to run to the AM/PM to get some smokes.”[/quote]

Some of these anti-tobacco ads are so poorly done they look like pro-tobacco ads.

A bunch of geeks talking about how cool they are because they don’t smoke sells more cigs than a cartoon camel.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Taxing “taboo” goods just gives government an incentive to create more demand for said goods. For example, government uses the tax dollars from tobacco to fund anti-smoking campaigns which amounts to free televised commercials for Big Tobacco.

I wonder how many people sitting at home have said to them selves after watching such ads, “Wow, I better quit,” and not, “hey, I need to run to the AM/PM to get some smokes.”

Some of these anti-tobacco ads are so poorly done they look like pro-tobacco ads.

A bunch of geeks talking about how cool they are because they don’t smoke sells more cigs than a cartoon camel.[/quote]

Definitely makes me want to fire one up. I feel insulted by those fucking ads.

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Nouns are generally very tough opponents.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Taxing “taboo” goods just gives government an incentive to create more demand for said goods. For example, government uses the tax dollars from tobacco to fund anti-smoking campaigns which amounts to free televised commercials for Big Tobacco.

I wonder how many people sitting at home have said to them selves after watching such ads, “Wow, I better quit,” and not, “hey, I need to run to the AM/PM to get some smokes.”

Some of these anti-tobacco ads are so poorly done they look like pro-tobacco ads.

A bunch of geeks talking about how cool they are because they don’t smoke sells more cigs than a cartoon camel.

Definitely makes me want to fire one up. I feel insulted by those fucking ads. [/quote]

Maybe they should try a more confronting approach.

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[quote]ibanezrg320 wrote:
Scientists are working on drug antibodies, so that drugs can be attacked the same way our immune system attacks bacteria and viruses…

Thats one way to decrease demand.

http://www.newscientist.com/blog/invention/2008/03/anti-ecstasy-antibodies.html

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I can see it now. Doctors injecting newborns with these so they’ll never feel anything from drugs. Fucking utilitarianism.

I’m no illegal drug user, but what happened to a person’s right to do to themselves what they please? This was the prevailing wisdom of pre-20th century thought in this country. Now all I hear is nannying from the government, trying to “protect” the individual from himself, whether it’s through tobacco taxes, seatbelt laws or excessive penalties for drug possession.

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[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
pat wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Taxing “taboo” goods just gives government an incentive to create more demand for said goods. For example, government uses the tax dollars from tobacco to fund anti-smoking campaigns which amounts to free televised commercials for Big Tobacco.

I wonder how many people sitting at home have said to them selves after watching such ads, “Wow, I better quit,” and not, “hey, I need to run to the AM/PM to get some smokes.”

Some of these anti-tobacco ads are so poorly done they look like pro-tobacco ads.

A bunch of geeks talking about how cool they are because they don’t smoke sells more cigs than a cartoon camel.

Definitely makes me want to fire one up. I feel insulted by those fucking ads.

Maybe they should try a more confronting approach.

[/quote]

They should just shut the fuck up. Smoking is a personal choice, if somebody wants to smoke I surely don’t give a damn. If the government says I shouldn’t do it, it makes me want to even if I didn’t consider doing “it” before…I detest the condescension that the media and the government try to bestow. As if these cocksuckers on the news have any right to suggest what I should or should not do.

If I was a media-pyte My morality would be like this: Drugs are bad unless they cure toenail fungus, make my dick hard, make a pussy wet, make my prostate small, improve my asthma, stop genital worts, etc. Being white is racist. Having money is a sin, not wanting to pay taxes makes you an asshole, thinking man-made global warming is nothing but fact, radical islam has a point, letting the government raise you kids is a good idea, turning over your health care to Nasty Pelosi, is a good idea, abortion is great sport and entertaining for the masses, being gay is better than being strait, etc.

So here’s my suggestion, get as fucked up ass you want and hold your middle finger high. I have a tremendous aversion to being told what to do.

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[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Maybe they should try a more confronting approach.

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Our adverts are like this too.

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[quote]pat wrote:
They should just shut the fuck up. Smoking is a personal choice, if somebody wants to smoke I surely don’t give a damn. If the government says I shouldn’t do it, it makes me want to even if I didn’t consider doing “it” before…I detest the condescension that the media and the government try to bestow. As if these cocksuckers on the news have any right to suggest what I should or should not do.[/quote]

No, they shouldn’t shut the fuck up. Not here anyway. The Government will end up paying for Lung cancer patients, and guess where that money comes from?

My back pocket.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:
They should just shut the fuck up. Smoking is a personal choice, if somebody wants to smoke I surely don’t give a damn. If the government says I shouldn’t do it, it makes me want to even if I didn’t consider doing “it” before…I detest the condescension that the media and the government try to bestow. As if these cocksuckers on the news have any right to suggest what I should or should not do.

No, they shouldn’t shut the fuck up. Not here anyway. The Government will end up paying for Lung cancer patients, and guess where that money comes from?

My back pocket.[/quote]

That’s a common misconception. Actually smokers save money on healthcare because they end up dying from a smoking related illness, before age related health problems set in. ie Hip and knee replacement. Nursing homes are costly too.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
That’s a common misconception. Actually smokers save money on healthcare because they end up dying from a smoking related illness, before age related health problems set in. ie Hip and knee replacement. Nursing homes are costly too. [/quote]

I don’t mid paying for old people because they are old, I do mind paying for someone else’s mistakes.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:
They should just shut the fuck up. Smoking is a personal choice, if somebody wants to smoke I surely don’t give a damn. If the government says I shouldn’t do it, it makes me want to even if I didn’t consider doing “it” before…I detest the condescension that the media and the government try to bestow. As if these cocksuckers on the news have any right to suggest what I should or should not do.

No, they shouldn’t shut the fuck up. Not here anyway. The Government will end up paying for Lung cancer patients, and guess where that money comes from?

My back pocket.[/quote]

They die earlier and it costs less in the long run.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
Sifu wrote:
That’s a common misconception. Actually smokers save money on healthcare because they end up dying from a smoking related illness, before age related health problems set in. ie Hip and knee replacement. Nursing homes are costly too.

I don’t mid paying for old people because they are old, I do mind paying for someone else’s mistakes.[/quote]

Old peoples mistake is that they didn’t enjoy life when they were young.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:
They should just shut the fuck up. Smoking is a personal choice, if somebody wants to smoke I surely don’t give a damn. If the government says I shouldn’t do it, it makes me want to even if I didn’t consider doing “it” before…I detest the condescension that the media and the government try to bestow. As if these cocksuckers on the news have any right to suggest what I should or should not do.

No, they shouldn’t shut the fuck up. Not here anyway. The Government will end up paying for Lung cancer patients, and guess where that money comes from?

My back pocket.[/quote]

Then we should outlaw ALL unhealthy activities by that logic. Smoking is not the only unhealthy thing Americans do.

Ever notice that the obesity epidemic is directly correlate to cessation in smoking? Not saying they had anything to do with each other, just saying that as smoking decreased, obesity increased. Coincidence? Perhaps, but worth thing about.
I’d rather smoke than be fat, personally.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Taxing “taboo” goods just gives government an incentive to create more demand for said goods. For example, government uses the tax dollars from tobacco to fund anti-smoking campaigns which amounts to free televised commercials for Big Tobacco.

I wonder how many people sitting at home have said to them selves after watching such ads, “Wow, I better quit,” and not, “hey, I need to run to the AM/PM to get some smokes.”

Some of these anti-tobacco ads are so poorly done they look like pro-tobacco ads.

A bunch of geeks talking about how cool they are because they don’t smoke sells more cigs than a cartoon camel.[/quote]

If I were a conspiracy theorist I’d think the anti-drug ads and DARE program were all of the CIA’s making for the same reasons.

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[quote]etaco wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Taxing “taboo” goods just gives government an incentive to create more demand for said goods. For example, government uses the tax dollars from tobacco to fund anti-smoking campaigns which amounts to free televised commercials for Big Tobacco.

I wonder how many people sitting at home have said to them selves after watching such ads, “Wow, I better quit,” and not, “hey, I need to run to the AM/PM to get some smokes.”

Some of these anti-tobacco ads are so poorly done they look like pro-tobacco ads.

A bunch of geeks talking about how cool they are because they don’t smoke sells more cigs than a cartoon camel.

If I were a conspiracy theorist I’d think the anti-drug ads and DARE program were all of the CIA’s making for the same reasons. [/quote]

If only our CIA were that competent.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Then we should outlaw ALL unhealthy activities by that logic. Smoking is not the only unhealthy thing Americans do.[/quote]

Nooooo! I’m saying that people should pay out of their OWN pockets for health problem they BRING ON THEMSELVES. No need to outlaw it.

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The war on drugs will never be won. Just like the war on terrorism.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
Sifu wrote:
That’s a common misconception. Actually smokers save money on healthcare because they end up dying from a smoking related illness, before age related health problems set in. ie Hip and knee replacement. Nursing homes are costly too.

I don’t mid paying for old people because they are old, I do mind paying for someone else’s mistakes.[/quote]

I understand that but in the long run they are saving us money by dying young. Between medical and pension costs old people are costly. Ciggarettes thin the herd.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:
They should just shut the fuck up. Smoking is a personal choice, if somebody wants to smoke I surely don’t give a damn. If the government says I shouldn’t do it, it makes me want to even if I didn’t consider doing “it” before…I detest the condescension that the media and the government try to bestow. As if these cocksuckers on the news have any right to suggest what I should or should not do.

No, they shouldn’t shut the fuck up. Not here anyway. The Government will end up paying for Lung cancer patients, and guess where that money comes from?

My back pocket.

Then we should outlaw ALL unhealthy activities by that logic. Smoking is not the only unhealthy thing Americans do.

Ever notice that the obesity epidemic is directly correlate to cessation in smoking? Not saying they had anything to do with each other, just saying that as smoking decreased, obesity increased. Coincidence? Perhaps, but worth thing about.
I’d rather smoke than be fat, personally. [/quote]

And the obesity epidemic means there will be a lot more hip and knee replacements if they don’t do us a favor and die early.

If we want to regulate healthy lifestyles we should sin-tax McDonalds BK etc…

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
I understand that but in the long run they are saving us money by dying young. Between medical and pension costs old people are costly. Ciggarettes thin the herd. [/quote]

But surely the non-smokers make up for it by being productive member of society for longer.