The Walking Dead Season 4

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[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
I can’t watch the damn show with all the Katana swingin going around.

Oh, a fucking sword is now THE weapon against zombies?
Why not Kung Fu?
Or superpowers? Everyone loves those dudes in tights now, amiright?

Why even bother with guns, they are so noisy anyways?
They need ammo, repair, can jam, are heavy etc

In reality, the damn sword would be nicked after cutting a couple zombies.
The need to really clean & oil it up constantly or draw it out of a sheath, little stopping power, a good chance of becoming stuck or hitting your friends etc…
A 20$ baseball bat would be far handier during WWZ.

I cant understand one bit how people debate “realistic” gun handling in this scene or that episode
meanwhile the black chick could as well take off into the air and kill zombies with strategic carpet farting.[/quote]

You’re kidding right? The katana is perhaps the deadliest non-projectile weapon ever created (definitely top 5). Every civilization has had a version of the word because of how effective it is. The katana is the most effective of the swords. [/quote]

The deadliest weapon ever is probably the spear in all its permutations, thrown, horseback, etc.

Basically a pointy stick.

A Katana makes sense if, and only if, your opponent is not likely to be armored in a way that prevents a slashing weapon from being useful.

Now, Japan had very little iron and shitty iron on top of it, but if a Samurai had encountered a European knight…

On the other hand, Zombies are not really armored at all…

Still, I would like a morning star and a chain mail.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
I can’t watch the damn show with all the Katana swingin going around.

Oh, a fucking sword is now THE weapon against zombies?
Why not Kung Fu?
Or superpowers? Everyone loves those dudes in tights now, amiright?

Why even bother with guns, they are so noisy anyways?
They need ammo, repair, can jam, are heavy etc

In reality, the damn sword would be nicked after cutting a couple zombies.
The need to really clean & oil it up constantly or draw it out of a sheath, little stopping power, a good chance of becoming stuck or hitting your friends etc…
A 20$ baseball bat would be far handier during WWZ.

I cant understand one bit how people debate “realistic” gun handling in this scene or that episode
meanwhile the black chick could as well take off into the air and kill zombies with strategic carpet farting.[/quote]

You’re kidding right? The katana is perhaps the deadliest non-projectile weapon ever created (definitely top 5). Every civilization has had a version of the word because of how effective it is. The katana is the most effective of the swords. [/quote]

The deadliest weapon ever is probably the spear in all its permutations, thrown, horseback, etc.

Basically a pointy stick.

A Katana makes sense if, and only if, your opponent is not likely to be armored in a way that prevents a slashing weapon from being useful.

Now, Japan had very little iron and shitty iron on top of it, but if a Samurai had encountered a European knight…

On the other hand, Zombies are not really armored at all…

Still, I would like a morning star and a chain mail. [/quote]

Or the Lobo from WWZ. Seems perfect

The Lobo is short for lobotomizer, basically a shovel/spear/axe

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
I can’t watch the damn show with all the Katana swingin going around.

Oh, a fucking sword is now THE weapon against zombies?
Why not Kung Fu?
Or superpowers? Everyone loves those dudes in tights now, amiright?

Why even bother with guns, they are so noisy anyways?
They need ammo, repair, can jam, are heavy etc

In reality, the damn sword would be nicked after cutting a couple zombies.
The need to really clean & oil it up constantly or draw it out of a sheath, little stopping power, a good chance of becoming stuck or hitting your friends etc…
A 20$ baseball bat would be far handier during WWZ.

I cant understand one bit how people debate “realistic” gun handling in this scene or that episode
meanwhile the black chick could as well take off into the air and kill zombies with strategic carpet farting.[/quote]

You’re kidding right? The katana is perhaps the deadliest non-projectile weapon ever created (definitely top 5). Every civilization has had a version of the word because of how effective it is. The katana is the most effective of the swords. [/quote]

Cant tell if serious or trolling.[/quote]

I am joining the chorus saying the Katana is fucking stupid.

I am no master swordsman (well, with a sword), but I have played with them a fair amount. A buddy had one and we were playing with it bored after we shot a couple of doe elk for a cull on the reservation. We had hauled them up by their back feet using a truck/rope.

Anyway, I got the bright idea I was going to chop off their head with the sword.

Wind up, swing, and WHACK — stuck somewhere on a bone in the spine. Good swing, tooo. Had to pry it out.

Repeat, WHACK — stuck somewhere on a bone, again. Again, stuck. Took 5 minutes to pry it out.

At this point it was getting disgusting, so we quit.

Anyway, yes, I know a human neck is like 1/4 as thick as an elks.

But you’d still have to hit exactly between the vertebrae, and that’s like a 1/10 chance, even if you knew what you are doing.

So, it’s stupid. And Michone is stupid, one-dimensional, character. Like a black Lori.

I’d take a bat or a light sledge. Or a piece of rebar with gloves.[/quote]

I’m of the assumption the decaying bones of the Walkers makes it much easier to slice through them. That’s why it’s so easy for them to simply bash their heads in with a single kick from a boot, and why it’s so easy to tear the limbs off of them. So it’s decayed, rotting, easily penetrated or broken bone. [/quote]

Yes. These are rotting corpses, many are over 1 full year old.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
I can’t watch the damn show with all the Katana swingin going around.

Oh, a fucking sword is now THE weapon against zombies?
Why not Kung Fu?
Or superpowers? Everyone loves those dudes in tights now, amiright?

Why even bother with guns, they are so noisy anyways?
They need ammo, repair, can jam, are heavy etc

In reality, the damn sword would be nicked after cutting a couple zombies.
The need to really clean & oil it up constantly or draw it out of a sheath, little stopping power, a good chance of becoming stuck or hitting your friends etc…
A 20$ baseball bat would be far handier during WWZ.

I cant understand one bit how people debate “realistic” gun handling in this scene or that episode
meanwhile the black chick could as well take off into the air and kill zombies with strategic carpet farting.[/quote]

You’re kidding right? The katana is perhaps the deadliest non-projectile weapon ever created (definitely top 5). Every civilization has had a version of the word because of how effective it is. The katana is the most effective of the swords. [/quote]

Cant tell if serious or trolling.[/quote]

I am joining the chorus saying the Katana is fucking stupid.

I am no master swordsman (well, with a sword), but I have played with them a fair amount. A buddy had one and we were playing with it bored after we shot a couple of doe elk for a cull on the reservation. We had hauled them up by their back feet using a truck/rope.

Anyway, I got the bright idea I was going to chop off their head with the sword.

Wind up, swing, and WHACK — stuck somewhere on a bone in the spine. Good swing, tooo. Had to pry it out.

Repeat, WHACK — stuck somewhere on a bone, again. Again, stuck. Took 5 minutes to pry it out.

At this point it was getting disgusting, so we quit.

Anyway, yes, I know a human neck is like 1/4 as thick as an elks.

But you’d still have to hit exactly between the vertebrae, and that’s like a 1/10 chance, even if you knew what you are doing.

So, it’s stupid. And Michone is stupid, one-dimensional, character. Like a black Lori.

I’d take a bat or a light sledge. Or a piece of rebar with gloves.[/quote]

I’m of the assumption the decaying bones of the Walkers makes it much easier to slice through them. That’s why it’s so easy for them to simply bash their heads in with a single kick from a boot, and why it’s so easy to tear the limbs off of them. So it’s decayed, rotting, easily penetrated or broken bone. [/quote]

A baseball bat or some type of bludgeon would still be superior. Besides the show and comic take place in the South Eastern U.S. its not like swords are all that common here , or guns are uncommon.

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If the corpses have decayed this much in such a short period of time wouldn’t they eventually just stop functioning all together in a few years? Seems like all they got to do is board themselves up in a ship or island and wait for the zombies to just decompose lol

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
If the corpses have decayed this much in such a short period of time wouldn’t they eventually just stop functioning all together in a few years? Seems like all they got to do is board themselves up in a ship or island and wait for the zombies to just decompose lol [/quote]

But if they decayed there wouldnt be a show.

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So, wait, did anyone consult Herschel, the veterinarian, on the sick pig?

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[quote]anonym wrote:
So, wait, did anyone consult Herschel, the veterinarian, on the sick pig?[/quote]

Or tell Rick when he’s handling the blood of pigs suspected of spreading a deadly flu to protect his face and quit rubbing his fucking eyes??? And isn’t it a bad idea to give whatever flu thing it is to the walkers and allow it to keep spreading? But then they are ok with spraying their faces with zombie juice but they’re at least already infected with that bug.

This show drive me insane sometimes. Especially the poor hygiene when they are battling contagious diseases. Must be the germaphobe in me.

Ignoring those parts I liked the episode.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
So, wait, did anyone consult Herschel, the veterinarian, on the sick pig?[/quote]

Or tell Rick when he’s handling the blood of pigs suspected of spreading a deadly flu to protect his face and quit rubbing his fucking eyes??? And isn’t it a bad idea to give whatever flu thing it is to the walkers and allow it to keep spreading? But then they are ok with spraying their faces with zombie juice but they’re at least already infected with that bug.

This show drive me insane sometimes. Especially the poor hygiene when they are battling contagious diseases. Must be the germaphobe in me.

Ignoring those parts I liked the episode. [/quote]

Being a germophobe would probably not be a bad thing because in such a scenario diseases would kill more people that zombies.

Admittedly, if you count zombification as a disease thats not qwuite true.

I would not even join a community that opens itself wide for dysentery, cholera, yellow fever and who knows what else.

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Hemorrhagic fever.

Nailed it.

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I’ll join the katana hate. One of the least practical swords ever created for actual warfare due to the amount of space you need to use it effectively. The gladius was a true gem. Engineered only for efficiency.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
I’ll join the katana hate. One of the least practical swords ever created for actual warfare due to the amount of space you need to use it effectively. The gladius was a true gem. Engineered only for efficiency.[/quote]

Damn good Choice.

In that world you are going to want a tool that can be used with minimal training (hack&slash) not a tool that requires years of training to perform those beheading moves. Also to repair and sharpen. You will wand something you can use a stone or in many cases Pavement to resharpen.

A good Machette (salvadorian) or a Khukri made from truck Springs High carbon. Any grease will keep it clean and a pocket stone will keep you hacking sharp.

Lawd help me I love steel.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
Don’t worry it wont be long until Avon Barksdale and Stringer Bell help D’angelo out of jail. [/quote]

I had Hope Omar would do a walk thru in a bathrobe looking for some Honeynut Cheerios. Then walked away whistling as the zombies ran in fear[/quote]

Nah Omar is busy running a music hall in Prohibition era Atlantic city.

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Thought it was a great ep. Hoping badass dictator Rick is back. Getting the sense that the Tyrese Rick confrontation is coming soon.

I used to hate the Carol character, I like her now. Great dynamic change from the beaten battered widow who lost her daughter to a tough woman adapting to survival.

The Carl character doesnt bother me, just the kid is a really bad actor.

Who the hell was the second body burned?

Who was feeding the walkers rats? A normal character, or just a random Woodbury citizen that we will meet?

The effects last night were great. Loved the part with the face smashed through the fence.

Maggie or Glenn die this season. Tyrese is safe(for the time being) now that they introduced a new token black guy.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:
Thought it was a great ep. Hoping badass dictator Rick is back. Getting the sense that the Tyrese Rick confrontation is coming soon.

I used to hate the Carol character, I like her now. Great dynamic change from the beaten battered widow who lost her daughter to a tough woman adapting to survival.

The Carl character doesnt bother me, just the kid is a really bad actor.

Who the hell was the second body burned?

Who was feeding the walkers rats? A normal character, or just a random Woodbury citizen that we will meet?

The effects last night were great. Loved the part with the face smashed through the fence.

Maggie or Glenn die this season. Tyrese is safe(for the time being) now that they introduced a new token black guy.

[/quote]

? Ummm how does that make Tyrese safe. If anything he is that much closer to zombie food.

Maggie and Glen are safe.

I’m betting the girls are feeding the Zombies like Pets.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Thought it was a great ep. Hoping badass dictator Rick is back. Getting the sense that the Tyrese Rick confrontation is coming soon.

I used to hate the Carol character, I like her now. Great dynamic change from the beaten battered widow who lost her daughter to a tough woman adapting to survival.

The Carl character doesnt bother me, just the kid is a really bad actor.

Who the hell was the second body burned?

Who was feeding the walkers rats? A normal character, or just a random Woodbury citizen that we will meet?

The effects last night were great. Loved the part with the face smashed through the fence.

Maggie or Glenn die this season. Tyrese is safe(for the time being) now that they introduced a new token black guy.

[/quote]

? Ummm how does that make Tyrese safe. If anything he is that much closer to zombie food.

Maggie and Glen are safe.

I’m betting the girls are feeding the Zombies like Pets.
[/quote]

Because new Black guy dies first. So long as he walks, Tyrese is ok.

That is a great point on the rats.

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[quote]debraD wrote:
This show drive me insane sometimes.[/quote]

Of all the things I want to bitch about, the bed sheets for cell doors swap really, really rustled my jimmies.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
I’ll join the katana hate. One of the least practical swords ever created for actual warfare due to the amount of space you need to use it effectively. The gladius was a true gem. Engineered only for efficiency.[/quote]

Damn good Choice.

In that world you are going to want a tool that can be used with minimal training (hack&slash) not a tool that requires years of training to perform those beheading moves. Also to repair and sharpen. You will wand something you can use a stone or in many cases Pavement to resharpen.

A good Machette (salvadorian) or a Khukri made from truck Springs High carbon. Any grease will keep it clean and a pocket stone will keep you hacking sharp.

Lawd help me I love steel.

[/quote]

Thinking Roman, I would think some riot sheilds from the prison would be a really effective barrier coupled with pointed things. Work like an old fashioned Roman legion as a unit.

Also, I would wear some tough coveralls (like a gas station guy wears), air jordans, and some workout gloves or somesuch. You’d be bite-proof over most of your body.

I think they have clean water, so cholera is out. This appears to be flu.

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I’d also point out the folly of fixed fortifications witout thinning the herds a bit.

Set up some traps for walkers outside to thin the crowds.

Get some heavy construction equipment and make yourself some ditches. Pour some diesel in to keep the mosquitoes down.

Put up some barriers so the walkers get funneled around to predictable places. Just chop down trees. Even if it doesn’t stop them, it will make them go around.

Have set patrols that go out and thin the surrounding walker population. Use cars to disable the walkers for easy kills later (i.e., make them crawlers).

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’d also point out the folly of fixed fortifications witout thinning the herds a bit.

Set up some traps for walkers outside to thin the crowds.

Get some heavy construction equipment and make yourself some ditches. Pour some diesel in to keep the mosquitoes down.

Put up some barriers so the walkers get funneled around to predictable places. Just chop down trees. Even if it doesn’t stop them, it will make them go around.

Have set patrols that go out and thin the surrounding walker population. Use cars to disable the walkers for easy kills later (i.e., make them crawlers).[/quote]

Morgan had a pretty sweet booby trap setup going on