[quote]Waittz wrote:
When is Daryl going to run out of arrows? [/quote]
He retrieves them all and makes his own.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
When is Daryl going to run out of arrows? [/quote]
bolts, not arrows.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]fncj wrote:
Who the hell is running around mowing lawns and highways during the zombie apocalypse?![/quote]
Challenge accepted.[/quote]
I’ll accept that.
Kidding aside, the grass on lawns of abandoned homes, the side of highways, and even Hershel’s farm, was the one thing that truly bugged me throughout the entire series.
Of course Carol isn’t actually the murderer. She’s covering for her (them)…
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Of course Carol isn’t actually the murderer. She’s covering for her (them)…[/quote]
The children?
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Of course Carol isn’t actually the murderer. She’s covering for her (them)…[/quote]
The children?[/quote]
Seems to be the case. They, or at least one of them, felt like she/they had failed when they didn’t zombie-proof (stab him in the brain) their dad. Maybe needed to prove to themselves that they could do it, after having failed earlier. Carol likely walks in, and has them help her drag the bodies out to burn.
Carol asked Rick about taking the girls with on her exile. Why would she ask to take them outside of the fence into wide open zombie/rogue-people territory? I suppose it could be argued that they’d be better off getting out of the prison, which is now a hot zone for some kind of illness. But then why hadn’t she left with them earlier, if she believes it’s safer outside of the prison fences? So, is it because she wants them with her, simply because she sees them as her kids, and her as their mom? No. She told the one not to call her mom.
It’s because she won’t be there to make sure they aren’t talking. Or, in the event someone suspects them, and begins to call them out publicly, she won’t be there to say “No, it was me.”
She’s worried they’ll give themselves away without her “coaching” them on what to say or not say. And as a last ditch effort, take the blame publicly, if need be. With something like that, would kids be safe from retribution in that kind of world? There’s reason to believe the well of mercy isn’t exactly deep in that prison.
Nah, I think Carol suspects that without her constant supervision, and frequent reminders, one of those kids is going to end up saying the wrong thing to the wrong person, giving themselves away. Perhaps even the news of her exile (if Ricks doesn’t report that she died due to a zombie attack or something) might lead to a confession inspired out of a sense of guilt for Carol’s predicament. And Carol won’t have a chance to try to protect them from what she fears would follow such a confession.
The child might have also justified it from having seen them (the two murdered) killing zombies at the fence. The older one at least seems to be incapable of accepting the reality that the zombies have no humanity left in them.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
The child might have also justified it from having seen them (the two murdered) killing zombies at the fence. The older one at least seems to be incapable of accepting the reality that the zombies have no humanity left in them. [/quote]
^& I thought the sociopath in training was Carl… Last season when he shot the kid while the kid was handing over his weapon was pretty telling of his mindset.
Now we have a off kilter girl that may challenge Carl for that role…
***Having not read the comics since the first issue, can anyone tell me how far they have strayed from the storyline after the fall of the Governor? Is this all new material or is there some faithfulness to the comic story?
I don’t know, I got the impression that Carol really did kill the two of them and she just found the balls to be like, “It’s what had to be done, so I did it.” And the way she spoke up for herself and came back at Rick, especially about Shane, when they were in the house showed that she might not be that far off in her thinking. The “you can be a farmer, you can’t just be a farmer” line was brilliant.
I think her relationship with the girls is what little remaining motherly instinct she has left, especially since she literally took their father from them. But her telling the girl not to call her ‘mom’ was to protect Carol’s emotions as much as to protect the girl’s. As in, don’t get personally attached because hard decisions will have to be made.
And I think Rick will definitely own up to banishing her when he gets back, rather than lying about her getting killed on the run. He’ll justify it as a judgment call for the good of the group and maybe just take her place in the council. Tyreese will be pissed/frustrated/feel slighted, but whatever.
Tyreese, in my eyes, went from a giant pussy to a giant emo-I-don’t-care-if-I-live-or-not. Really not happy what they’re doing with him.
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.[/quote]
- Badly sick.
- Carol helped remove them.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.[/quote]
- Badly sick.
- Carol helped remove them.[/quote]
I could see if Carol helped but even being badly sick you would still be able to fight of small children who seemingly had zero experience in killing, unless they got them in their sleep.
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.[/quote]
- Badly sick.
- Carol helped remove them.[/quote]
I could see if Carol helped but even being badly sick you would still be able to fight of small children who seemingly had zero experience in killing, unless they got them in their sleep.[/quote]
Carol already showed them how to kill quick with the DAD. Hell she even did it while he was laying in the jail rack like the two would have been. No need for them to fight a kid comes in you are sick ,weak,dizzy you would not even think about them being in the cell then you relax or even try to sleep and stab. Just like carol showed them to do.
Carol comes by maybe even notices her knife the girl took from her and decides to cover up the crime scene to save a little girl since she couldn’t save her own child.
Makes since to me
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.[/quote]
Exactly how Carol showed them how do to with their father before he turned.
That might be why she felt responsible.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.[/quote]
Exactly how Carol showed them how do to with their father before he turned.
That might be why she felt responsible. [/quote]
The more I think about it the more sense it makes. It also gives Carol a way to come back without tyrese trying to kill her
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I just don’t see how 2 small children would have got the jump on 2 adults, killed them, brought their bodies out of the prison, and burned them, especially with no one noticing or nothing happening to them.[/quote]
Exactly how Carol showed them how do to with their father before he turned.
That might be why she felt responsible. [/quote]
Exactly. She’s going to feel some responsibility for pushing the “be ready to kill” stuff, when maybe she should’ve considered the mental state of the children she’s instructing. And she might be seen by the others as bearing some responsibility, even if it was the children who actually did the killing. Again, because of the secret “education” she’s been giving to the kiddos. Assuming that comes out, too.
You’re all crazy, Carol did it, she wasn’t confessing fake shit to Rick.
[quote]red04 wrote:
You’re all crazy, Carol did it, she wasn’t confessing fake shit to Rick.[/quote]
I agree. They are reading too much into it.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
You’re all crazy, Carol did it, she wasn’t confessing fake shit to Rick.[/quote]
I agree. They are reading too much into it. [/quote]
Seems everyone is forgetting what the younger sister said when carol told the girl she was weak. Her sister said “She isn’t weak, she’s messed up” could mean nothing. But just a strange phrase when she could have said Scared or Sad.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
You’re all crazy, Carol did it, she wasn’t confessing fake shit to Rick.[/quote]
I agree. They are reading too much into it. [/quote]
Seems everyone is forgetting what the younger sister said when carol told the girl she was weak. Her sister said “She isn’t weak, she’s messed up” could mean nothing. But just a strange phrase when she could have said Scared or Sad.[/quote]
I don’t think that meant she was a psychotic sociopath or anything lol, she didn’t exactly seem to keen on violence. Though I am curious as to what happened or at least a better explanation as to why it happened.