And is that your position? A Catholic High School, existing because of Catholics, should not be able to hire and fire based upon its moral teachings?
If it’s not taking a single dollar of tax money or receiving any tax breaks, I ABSOLUTELY believe the school should be able to fire its teachers for being homosexual.
What if they meet the qualifications, though? Even providing services to underserved non-catholic children whose parents are grateful for the opportunity?
Well, I can honestly say that as much as I opposed Trump, I have a new appreciation for the fact that it isn’t Hillary nominating Judges.
Thanks, @anon71262119!
Not more than BYU…but not an insignificant number by any means then?
Is it safe to say that IF the Honor Code is based on Religious Belief; that even if there is no “official” Code at Utah; a significant portion of the Student Body follows their own “Honor Code”? (or at least try, as much as College Student’s can…).
Again…the point being that these dumb “Discrimination List” of schools is just that…dumb…
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Speaking of Football, @Powerpuff…
I think that 3 schools (Southern Cal, BYU and the UofU) must account for about 99.9% of the Polynesian Football Players! (LOL!)
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I’m perfectly happy with a private entity whose very nature and purpose is it’s religious viewpoints and teachings having a morality standard that it seems fit.
I’m not perfectly happy being asked to fund that entity in any way, however.
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Thank you, sir. I’d explore that more, but I’m pooped from the previous exchanges. I need a break from this topic.
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Which are? Tolerance? Forgiveness? Love the sinner, not the sin? Don’t judge? Marginalizing and dehumanizing people is not a Catholic virtue (anymore, or so I’ve been told by the new pope).
Besides, according to the Church being gay is not a sin. I wouldn’t want a gay or hetero teacher talking about his or her sex life. It is not immoral to be gay. How some weirdo evangelicals who believe in a literal reading of The Flood or the Garden of Eden feel is another matter.
Thanks for the discussion, Z. Might come back to it tomorrow.
And a Catholic HS goes well beyond that purpose and you don’t even need to be Catholic to attend.
I don’t buy your definition of private. Its the “Public Accomodations Act”. It might be the nexus to interstate commerce that “allows” it to be regulated, but the law only prohibits discrimination in public accomodations. So basically every business has since been placed under the umbrella of public accomodations.
FWIW my dad was fired from a Catholic grade school after 15 years because he was an Orthodox Christian priest and a new pastor came in and “felt that he was too influential”. The local bishop ruled that my dad was a fallen away Roman Catholic priest because he had been an Anglican priest and later converted to Orthodox Christianity instead of becoming Roman Catholic, and so he was blackballed from all Catholic schools in the diocese.
We ended up moving and he taught at a Jesuit university for 30 years and the Roman Catholic church’s stance on Orthodox priests is not in line with the Bishop’s determination at the time.
Incidentally, it turned out that the Catholic priest who fired my dad was a practicing homosexual who knew that my dad had had pastoral dealings with one of his partners and who told that partner, who later relayed it to my dad that that was the real reason that he fired him. (My dad had been a key force in getting two Catholic associate pastors removed from their jobs for sexual impropriety, one with grade-school girls and the other with a married woman whom he was counselling).
Anyway, a lot of that was just coincidental to the discussion, but my point @Sloth is that they didn’t need a morality cause to fire him. They had the right to fire at will, and even justified it on my Dad’s religion and position.
My point is that there are people who would use the force of government to intervene in the future, despite the long held religious beliefs and moral beliefs of the Catholic Church. At a Catholic school. Again, I feel comfortable about this nomination though. Noticed you directed your response to me, and I appreciate it. Sorry if I’m a bit short, just beat.
Lol…If I were a birther, I think his given name would suffice.
He isn’t Tyereek, or Dyeric, his name is Barrack. A noise I only previously make when puking ‘Baaaaraaaack!’. Middle name Hussein? Come on… I wouldn’t need to make up a name.
We Catholic’s tend to believe that the devil himself provides Catholic employees. But that’s a family issue. If you want to right to bitch, become Catholic. Otherwise, stay out of our family issues.
I know where this is going and I don’t mean that.
Criminals and pedophiles and those who cover for them need and deserve to be turned over to the state for full prosecution and punishment.
OHHHHHHH the irony
If it serves interstate travelers or is somehow engaged in interstate commerce, yes. It doesn’t mean it’s not private. Such a business is owned privately, decorated privately, has whatever management arrangement structure it wants, and opens and closes whenever it wants, and can shutter at any time at the whim of the owner.
Not all Catholic beliefs and certainly many morals are not long held.
Lack of awareness is a beautiful thing.
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