The Push to 2020 Has Begun!

I know, it’s not like you are telling them what they must do. Ironic.

And now you are calling black Americans mentally ill. Congrats. Do you post while wearing a hood?

That’s fine as far as it goes, but Presidents don’t pass laws and what you’re taking on in that Faustian bargain is catastrophic downside risk that the nutball invites something far worse than some “bad laws”. Congress can mitigate “bad laws” - they can’t mitigate dumb wars, economic crises brought on by catastrophe due to criminal dereliction of management duties, etc.

I’ll take “dumb laws” over a sensless war or recession.

I don’t disagree, but you’re pulling the tact of trying to say Trump’s only issues is bad manners but otherwise he’s great at his job and for the country. Hell no, that’s not true - he’s incompetent and corrupt to point of causing danger to the country. Oh, and he has bad manners.

That’s not fair. He’s only a danger to those dumb enough to drink bleach. I think the US can survive losing Alabama.

Correct. I’m not.

Nope.

I agree in principle, as I am and have been a China hawk for a long time. But one of the few things I agree with Trump on - China hawkishness - he can’t even do that right. His strategy was (generally) good, his tactics (being Trump, overly aggressive, untrustworthy in negotiations, flat out ignorant on policy) were terrible.

Your time is now. Although Trump may fire up the MAGA troops by insisting that “Ain’t nobody going to come into America and force us to speak English!” That said, the troops will lose interest when the new season of reality television rolls around, so it’ll be cakewalk for you redcoats.

Just spare me a small patch of ground and I’ll swear loyalty and drink all the pints of Guinness my new overlords demand. :wink:

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Guinness is for collaborators only. Glad to have you on board, TB.

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You are.

Stockholm Syndrome is not a mental illness?

No. Black folks will be black folks, regardless of their vote. That goes for all shades of brown and white folks as well. I’m not saying, “You ain’t black.”

No.

We did! Congrats on thinking like an American.

Careful what you wish for (have you seen Alabama, Florida or West Virginia?). You might as well retake Rhodesia, Sierra Leone or Australia. Besides, as evidenced above, we’ve already beaten you… again.

Imo the great thing about Trump is that’s he too damn lazy, or busy twittering, to actually commit himself to doing any real “political work”. Bernie was the one guy that “scared” me, to your point about train-wreck laws and policies.

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No one said you did but feel free to move the goal posts. It’s your privilege.

Ah, but perhaps I’m just thinking like a Brit, and you colonials have just caught up.

Without French help this time! I’m so proud, you’re growing up.

Edit: One day the sun will not set on Her majesty’s empire again. The day draws nearer.

You yanks are learning why we made our executive impotent and hereditary, one day you’ll come back to Lizz

All I’m saying guys, you can all just admit the separation of powers is a joke and control the excesses of the political class the way the Brits do, by ensuring they inbreed.

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We should just elect people from West Virginia seems to be your point.

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Interesting - “lesser of two evils” voters (don’t like either candidate) are breaking 49-18 for Biden, Trump was +20 on that matchup in 2016 versus Hillar:y:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/20/charlie_cook_voters_that_dislike_both_trump_and_biden_will_vote_49-18_for_biden_in_2016_it_was_20_trump.html

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Interesting. But some polls have Trump up in battleground states. This remains a wait and see election for me.

As this is the election thread, I think the most interesting states to watch are Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire.

Those states are where the election is won or lost, imo.

God damn we’ve had this conversation numerous times recently. Talking about what the Democratic Party did way back when is beyond stupid. You know all about the fact that essentially the two sides flip flopped roles years ago. Yet this is still a right wing security blanket (Republicans freed the slaves!) as their party has become the home of white supremacists. Because why clean up the current issues with racism in your party that have been going on for decades now when you can say “hey we were cooler with blacks 100 years ago than them. Don’t forget that!”

The cool thing about our system is we already know the vast majority of results before election night for President. So our candidates will travel to the handful of states that matter multiple times and ignore all the rest.

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Look, H, I love you. But you can’t get led into this PR shite. Just accept the 2 party system and don’t hope for better, otherwise you’ll be Italy with a gigantic nuclear arsenal.

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