That is of course an issue with politicians in general, especially these days in which the Twitter mob represents everyone and you have polls everyday, who are more concerned about looking good for reelection purposes. With that said, if the poorer and less educated voters cared about the things that actually concerned their quality of life they might not be so poor and easily manipulated into ignoring their status for the sake of liberal tears and fear of the Other.
Obamacare successfully helped millions of people Nationwide.
Not a huge fan of Obamacare, but the only people who think nobody saw a gain are basement dwellers.
I’d put it similar to thinking nobody was afraid of Obama.
It’s kind of like how the states that vote Republican also get more welfare (even though we all know that only single black mothers with 10 kids from 10 different fathers or illegals with their anchor babies get welfare).
Yes, sir! I’d say the stringpullers saw big gains.
Is stringpuller code for ‘people with pre existing conditions like pfurys sister who saw premiums drop by 60ish%’?
It’s mostly because red States are filled with a much higher rate of LOW quality people. Major exception is probably Texas.
I was in Florida and listened to about one minute of conservative (really more like moronic) talk radio. The host was talking about how the Dems are trying to destroy our European cultural roots (which he didn’t mention were actually liberal in nature). He brought up how Obama (because he still can be a convenient boogeyman) removed a bust of Winston Churchill from the White House. This is an old story from the right that is 100% false. It has long been proven false. Yet the right still uses this lie to show us how scary Obama is/was. And, the simple minded tribalists who only have to google the claim just go along for the ride because of the endorphins.
Careful or you’ll sound like Ayn Rand.
My mind is still blown over the concept of nobody being afraid of Obama.
How could millions of people think a foreign born guy scammed his way to the nuclear codes (and is also probably the Antichrist) and NOT be afraid.
It sounds terrifying. Birthers must have insanely bigger stones than I do to feel no fear.
Let’s not forget the Tea Party.
Paradoxically more dollars spent per pupil on education in the US, doesn’t equal better results. See DC schools for instance. We outspend some countries that kick our ass in test scores.
The problem isn’t the spending. It’s poor parenting and lack of school choice for the rare parent that does care.
Wrong. It was about power. Once an entitlement exists it can’t be modified or removed. It was about the government taking over healthcare. Notice how the narrative among all democratic front runners is now single payer. O Care was always a bridge to single payer.
The same side that runs every single inner city in America. Where the schools perform like absolute garbage. Oh and that side hates charter schools, which are often an impoverished family’s only shot at a decent education.
It was a giant medicaid expansion with the pre-existing condition law tacked on. If they just would have done that in the first place they could have saved billions. But instead they tacked on a bunch of shit that made healthcare more expensive for people that actually work, with no benefit.
Is this the same family you frequently mention receiving(living off of?) government assistance? How does anything change for her?
Because Obamacare wasn’t meant to help those people. Much like the recent tax plan. People need to understand who the bill is supposed to help before they freak out about it.
Almost all of my family back home, yeah.
Most of WV loves the shit out of the affordable healthcare act. It’s just Obamacare they tend to hate
All of my parents children have jobs where they sustain themselves without govt aid. We’re definitely outliers in the pfury family.
Bernie isn’t paying his staffers ‘A living wage’. They are not making $15 dollars an hour and so far is refusing to… LOL!
That’s fine. But they could have chucked more money at Medicaid without doing things that made every single policy in America more expensive and additional regulations on healthcare.
While we’re at it don’t claim that every non-medicaid family will save $2,500/year when they knew at the time that wasn’t true.
Utter hypocrisy on Bernie’s part.
(See? By no means to I think Trump is the only hypocrite around).
And there are sure as hell a LOT of things I don’t like from the “progressive” Left that I’ve mentioned many, many times before.
I’m sure improving health care outcomes was somewhere on the priority list, but I never got around to reading all 20,000 pages like you seem to have.
Are you under the impression the inability to do this isn’t the sole reason Obamacare exists?
This was the biggest flaw imo. If you don’t factor in numbers assuming sabotage from the opposing party you’re just being stupid.
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Why would I need to read 20k pages to personally know dozens of low income people who saw a benefit?
You said it was important to understand who the bill is supposed to benefit, which seems like a tall order considering it’s scope and complexity. I don’t understand it, but it sounds like you do.
I’m glad it’s helping some people you know.
Where did I say anything about spending? You posted an answer looking for a question.
Hmmmm…power for whom? Healthcare for whom?
You do know the inner cities are not where the majority of left leaning voters live.
Schools, or students? And what exactly has the right proposed to fix that problem?
Don’t fall for the charter school myth. They have their own problems.
There is more to the story than what your quote from pat would imply.