Poor people pay less for food, duh.
Everything I’ve read had what seemed to be reasonable stipulations and gave more to people making less than 75 k.
What’s your source?
Even if what you say is 100 percent true, that’s absolutely something that I would want to see objected to. That’s still part of a good faith negotiation. How to dole out the money, and whether more should go to families, businesses etc. Sort it out and pass the bill.
Now is not the time to debate green new deal provisions. I can’t imagine many people would think that it is.
I know you are joking, but generally poor people pay more for the same items. Less store options where they live, and they usually don’t have the buying power to buy in bulk.
We have Aldi stores here all over the city including near the hood. Very reasonable prices. And a new Whole Foods type of one right at the edge of the ghetto. Prices are surprisingly low.
I know it is a liberal source, but first one I found backing my claim. I am sure other sources are out there.
Agree here, as would I.
I agree here. From doogie’s list I only agree with 1 and 2 being in the relief bill, and 3 and 4 being things we should eventually get, but now is not the time.
Aldi is amazing. We do 95% of our food shopping there. They recently changed their steaks (I was previously wary of the steaks, but bought pork and beef roasts, and hamburger). The steaks now are individually wrapped and as good as other stores IMO.
Aldi is kinda a new thing, my point was more valid previous to Aldi in the inner cities. Poor rural people still end up paying high food prices.
I don’t shop there. I go to a local butcher or Fresh Thyme. Sometimes Mutant Mart.
You should give it a shot. I would guess that I save at least 25% on my grocery bill shopping there. I can also get in and out in 15 minutes. Their cashiers are like NASCAR pit crew workers.
In the last couple years, they have upgraded the produce, and recently the steaks.
I like Fresh Thyme, and occasionally will go to Von Hansen’s to get a rack of ribs or something like that.
Wal Mart has good prices on grass fed beef. I’ll check em out again but last time it was pretty weak.
They only really carry one option, and it is usually Aldi brand. Somethings you can’t get there obviously. There are going to be trade offs when the prices are so low. It isn’t for everybody, but it is for me.
We shopped there when I was a poor white child. Rodeo Bill chips !
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Aldi be the shit dude. I don’t go there for everything, but no one compares when it comes to saving. Some of their knock off stuff I like better than name brands. I will get an insane amount of stuff there and then see the bill is 102. Wal Mart and Target can’t compete with them on price really in my experience.
Agree. Their chocolate is some of the best I have had (I believe it is imported German chocolate).
You’re always going to find unneeded shit in bills this size. Both sides do it and have done it for forever. Until we demand changes we’re stuck with it as shitty as it may be. No one wants to vote against relief so it’s the perfect time to sneak that shit in. Look at the stuff that got put in with tarp or all the big security bills post 9/11. It’s fucking ridiculous and we should demand changes. We’re too busy saying toss them all out one day then voting for basically all incumbents the next.
Giant bailouts without conditions after we saw what happened the last time around should be a no brainer for all involved. More money going to poor people should be a no brainer for all involved.
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The best idea, and I think you mentioned it, was separate bills for businesses and individuals.
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Yeah. It’s not a groundbreaking idea. Individuals are hurt most by this. Figure them out first. Figure out small businesses next. Then get bent over by corporations.
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Both you and @zecarlo are forgetting that businesses are individuals.
Mitt Romney is that you?
In case you were serious I can respond.
Both sides may have done it before but this seems pretty one sided to me. Today. Right now. During the biggest crisis of our lifetime.
Then they will lie to you about it, get the New York Times to change their headline 3 times, while the best anyone can seem to say in defense of it is “both sides do it” without giving a single example.
If people ever will get sick of this and start demanding competence in government, I hope it happens soon.
But hey, keep repeating if it helps.
Same stuff on both sides…
Same stuff on both sides…
Same stuff on both sides…
I find it unlikely that Senate Dems would not have voted on the bill as is from the House. GOP Senate added stuff to the bill which was unpalatable to Senate Dems, otherwise they would have voted for it.
It does seem in this example that both sides are doing it. That does not change the morality of what they are both doing. Both sides are wrong here.