Wall Street bullish on the idea of a Biden presidency, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is investors and businesses hate the uncertainty that this circus creates around literally everything.
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I agree that that was uncalled for. I removed that portion of my post.
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It’s human nature to create narratives.
I appreciate it.
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I second this. Pat has never said a racist thing I can remember.
The gentlemen above who disagree with my criticisms of Trump are all good as far as I am concerned.
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Politics makes people say strange things they would never otherwise say … I think it makes us all crazy.
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Where does it say he lied?
Agree. I don’t think too many here haven’t ever posted something incorrect (source, or idea). Pat plays by the rules of proper debate (or at least puts effort into it, which is all we can really ask IMO), and has become someone who I enjoy taking to as he has different views. He seems to actually consider ideas, which can’t be said for everyone. I’ve changed my mind on at least a few things because of posters like him.
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He’s a piece of shit and a coward. And he knows why I would say that. Proper debate? If the rules were made by little bitches. If he lived near me I would have already beaten the shit out of him and no one here would think I was wrong.
So, presenting information and asking someone to make up their own mind is a disservice? I didn’t say it was true or false, I said take a look and make up your own mind. Are you saying people are incapable of making up their own minds? That people are not to be presented information because they are incapable of thinking?
This article doesn’t ‘debunk’ anything. It’s a ‘he said, she said’ at best. Perhaps Project Veritas bribed this guy, or maybe they didn’t we don’t know, these are allegations going back and forth. And that too, deserves investigation.
The article claims Osman was bribed to say he was ballot harvesting and Veritas says they didn’t. Why should I take the word of a guy who was caught on video with a shit ton of ballots in his car over the whistle-blower? After all, if it is true he was ballot harvesting for money, he could go to prison for a long time. He has every incentive to say it didn’t happen.
Concluding behavior like this should be investigated isn’t a big ask. All I want to know is if there is any truth to it. If the video was edited falsely, a tech team should be able to figure that out very quickly. Asking a few questions to find out if there is anything going on, on the ground is not a big deal. If it’s false, then it should be easily proven so. If it’s true, then a massive fraud has been perpetrated and the American people deserve justice.
If Bubba Wallace can get 15 FBI agents to investigate a garage pull down rope that ‘looks like’ a noose present in many of those garages, they can certainly put a couple of boots on the ground in Minnesota to ask some questions.
Debunked…lol. The alleged criminal says he didn’t do it. How novel. The prisons are filled with people who didn’t do it.
If you do have an article that actually debunks it via independent verification, I will accept it. The suspect claiming ‘he didn’t do it’, does not a debunking make.
The good news is the Police seem to think its worth investigation:
“Minneapolis police said it was “aware of the allegations of vote harvesting” and “looking into the validity of those statements” last week.”
Why would they bother if it was debunked outright?
All I ask is that people are treated with respect, positions are considered, and replies are honest attempts at rebuttal (not strawman). The goal from both sides is ideally to find what is the most likely to be the truth. This doesn’t always happen, but if we strive to do this here, it will be an enjoyable platform to share ideas on. I see pat trying to do this most of the time.
I’m not good at determining sarcasm. You being serious?
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As the article states, he conveniently left out the part that the ACORN employees immediately after his pimp stunt called the cops. Hence the lawsuits.
And what happened to ACORN? What was the result of this expose? I think you’ll find they were investigated, found to be doing all kinds of fucked up things and was dismantled.
Individuals filing lawsuits because they were collateral damage doesn’t make the expose false. And they couldn’t sue ACORN because it didn’t exist anymore.
I literally could have stopped at “What happened to ACORN?” They were exposed and dismantled (under Obama) and it was Project Veritas who exposed them.
Thanks fellas!
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What the hell? Does anybody support this?
Talking about taking the vote out of the people’s hands, this is overt. I don’t believe this is for Trump, though it could be convenient if he gets reelected. But this looks like a move to get Biden out of office. This would subvert the will of the people and establish Kamala as president, whether or not the people want that. And to further ensure that no ‘non-establishment’ politician can ever hold the presidency again.
The DNC is playing dangerous games with our government. If the people vote for somebody they do not like, they can just remove them. To quote Biden, “Comon’ man!”
Yes this is the leap Trump said so you coming to the same conclusion is completely expected.
EVERYONE is currently playing dangerous games with our government.
The democrats said “ALL options would be on the table” if the SCOTUS nomination pushed through. Although at this point I think there’s far too much ill will across the board.
This is not a good optics look for them.
Everybody knows that at this point Biden is a shoehorn.
It’s sad and ugly, and the DNC should be ashamed of themselves for it.
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100% serious. He posted a nasty, false accusation that he could have been sued over. He of course deleted it, either because he was afraid that would happen or a moderator told him to as it was crossing a line, and not because he realized it was a shitty thing to post. He is a scum bag and a coward. No wife. No kids. No friends. Just a miserable little loser.