An old fuck in the south screamed “white power, white power” and trump posted a video of this and thanked him for his support.
There is no excuse for this, and no defense for this.
Lets say the guy was being “sarcastic”. my first sentence now reads “An old fuck in the south sarcastically screamed “white power, white power” and trump posted a video of this and thanked him for his support.” Is that really any better?
My mom was one of the old fucks in the south who was in that golf cart parade. I realize old fucks like her are obstacles to progress in places like the CHAZ, but I try to give her the benefit of the doubt. It’s not like these Villagers are out there changing the world for the better with woke activism. They’re not improving outcomes in the real world like the activists of CHAZ. They just payed taxes for their whole life and managed to retire without engaging in Marxist revolutionary LARPing.
Do you think that old fuck in the south was expressing support for white power? It seemed like a clear sarcastic response to me, but I’m a normal adult.
If I had to guess, Trump probably posted this without listening to the audio. I’m not saying this was a great choice of things to tweet, but that I don’t believe this presents de-facto evidence that Trump is a white supremacist.
What sort of enlightened conclusions do you draw from this?
It’s irrelevant really at least as far as Trump goes. It’s no more or less stupid to retweet if it’s sarcastic or sincere. In fact to me debating about whether it’s sarcastic or not seems like an attempt to downplay the President being a fucking moron. Which I’m used to, but still. People gotta find a way to defend him I realize and by God even when he shares a white power video it can be done!
What do you think this video tells us?
I’m going with yet another affirmation that Trump puts very little thought into what he tweets. My hunch is that he never listened to the audio. I don’t think much more than this is in play.
What sort of conclusions do you draw here?
The conclusion i draw from this is that trump posted a video of an old white fuck in the south screaming “white power, white power”, and then thanked him for his support.
I’m not guessing or mind reading like you.
You might want to step back and look at what you are defending. This isnt an argument about CHAZ, and liberalism gone wild. This is about an old white fuck in the south screaming “white power, white power” and the POTUS tweeting the video and thanking him for his support.
I’m not defending the tweet. It wasn’t a good or productive thing to tweet at all. The only people helped by it are people who sell ads for a living. I’m sure it also helped many TDS sufferers who got to feel the wave of smug validation wash over them anytime something remotely validates all of the hysterical thoughts they’ve had about Trump for the last four years.
I knew it. See?!? He IS THE WORST!!!
I’ll defend the guy in the video, who I have no reason to believe it a white supremacist at all.
The upcoming election most definitely will be.
Except for the FACT he shouted “white power, white power”.
But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion.
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you, too, suffered from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Symptoms include:
Being unable to see a clear contextual connection between the man’s “yeah, white power” response with another person asking “where’s you klan hood?” and calling the man “racist”?
Seeing such a connection would, after all, call into doubt Trump’s nefarious motivations or maybe even cause him to be viewed as a fallible human being. I can see how that can get in the way of a good Trump hate session.
Is there a syndrome for people who downplay and apologize for everything the President does? Or is “TDS” just a fun thing to throw out when an argument is lacking?
Here’s the thing…in a time of massive unrest regarding race relations the President shared a video with someone saying white power. I do not know what “conclusions” need to be drawn from that. I do not think guessing at whether or not the guy was sarcastic or not even matters in the least bit. We are discussing what the President did with the video.
We see an old white fuck from the south shouting “white power, white power”, and the president thanking him for his support.
I think, “gee that guy seems awfully racist, and trump looks really terrible by thanking him for his support”.
You think “gee, that guy doesnt seem to support white supremacy at all, trump didnt watch the video he himself posted, and whuddabout Seattle and CHAZ and Minneapolis??”
Yes. I must be the one with a derangement syndrome.
Lest there be any confusion about what TDS means, observe today’s posts.
It is not adequate to merely say “It was a bad tweet”, as I did. No. Not adequate at all.
Failing to fly into hysterics and failing to ignore the clear context of the video is practically emboldening white supremacists for the president. I’m sure many are stepping out of the shadows right now, emboldened to act thanks to me and Trump.
In fact, if you don’t join in the hysterics, that makes you a person who…
Thinking of simple questions like, “What should I conclude from this?” has no place here.
That’s fine. It’s okay to just be mad.
Well, given the climate in this nation at the moment, calling it bad is an understatement. I hear a lot of Trump supporters talking about how the left is out to get Trump and they don’t even give him a chance. The irony is that Trump is not only deliberately divisive, he is inherently divisive. It’s hard for a nation to unite under his leadership when he is not a leader nor a voice for unity. He wants and needs a nation that thinks in terms of us and them. The guy can’t even set the example and wear a mask. Look at the states that are currently getting hit hard by Covid; had he led by example maybe they wouldn’t be in their current position. He had to make Covid a political issue. He had peacefully protesting AMERICANS tear gassed for a photo op whose purpose no one can explain. He had to appear like a strong leader at the expense of looking like an understanding and compassionate one.
It was a very bad tweet.
Well you started with “I’m a normal person” so obviously I can tell in a video from someone I’ve never met it’s definitely sarcasm. (Attempt to downplay the retweet by saying the dude wasn’t serious, something we have no way of knowing). Then you moved towards it’s an issue because Trump should know people will think this is a problem not because of what Trump did but because the context won’t come into play. Then you’re back with the “but I said it was bad!” Throw in a bunch of “what about Chaz!” or something for some reason.
I mean it’s the same old song and dance with the apologists. Make some excuses for Trump, casually throw out something like not the smartest thing ever as “criticism” then act in faux outrage that people come to different conclusions than you and call them deranged.
I just don’t see why everything needs defended.
I don’t understand the shock. When it comes to Trump just think of the stupidest thing someone could say in a given situation and then wait for Trump to come up with something stupider.
Have you ever had a conversation in real life? With spoken words?
It seems like a silly question to ask, I know, but it seems to me than anyone with experience conversing in spoken English would know that it was a sarcastic response to a heckler making accusations of racism. This seemed very easy to understand, but again I do have experience speaking verbally.
Speaking of which, nobody has much to say about that asshole’s behavior. Screaming “racist” at a Trump supporter is good, after all. #resistance
I defended the guy in the video, because @Californiagrown called him an “old fuck from the south.” My mom was literally in that golf cart parade, so if he’s calling him that he’s calling her that. I used the CHAZ activist example as a point of comparison, since he seems so eager to explain the virtues of modern progressive activism.
I’ll take the old fuck from the south for a neighbor over anyone from the CHAZ, but that’s just me.
Oh no shock here won’t speak for Aragorn or Cali or mag. Waking up to something like these is pretty typical in the era of Trump. But we should not downplay or attempt to normalize this coming from our highest office simply because it’s par for the course for him.
You seem quite convinced of it at least. In fact you seem to think no other possible scenario exists. Meanwhile I’m sitting here saying how could anyone know for sure (none of us can if you’re being honest with yourself) and also that it is irrelevant. Because it’s absolutely 100% irrelevant. In no “context” is the President looking different with this whether the guy is sarcastic or a die hard Nazi.
I haven’t said it was good. Is the thread not about the presidential race? Maybe he was being sarcastic as well? I mean after all I don’t know him so why not just think that like the other dude? Isn’t this where the we don’t know what’s in their heart thinking would come into play? But it’s (again) irrelevant to discussing the President’s actions.
It’s this.
And recall when Trump was running down Joe Scarborough on social media slandering him as having committed murder - Trumpkins couldn’t even be roused to condemn that. Never is the answer, “yeah, that was a terrible thing to say/do” - it’s always “what he really meant was…”.