The Purpose of Life

[quote]pushharder wrote:
-Tiberius- wrote:
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the orgasmic cries of their women.

This needed fixing.[/quote]

PH the orgasms of course come after the lamentation.

“There ain’t no answers this is all just random evolution. Just check the chemicals in your solution. You might be positive”

I’m drunk.

The answer to the question is out there. Maybe nobody knows it, but it’s there. It may be that there is no answer however I seriously think it has something more to do with the “supernatural” than we think.

[quote]905Patrick wrote:
THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
905Patrick wrote:
Human beings are simply meat-sacks. We attempt to find purpose in life because the notion that we have no value is kind of hard to deal with. Each and everyone of us is exactly as worthless as everyone else.

your a nutt-sack.

I can be any sack you want me to be, the fact remains, we are all effectively worthless.[/quote]

905Patrick, You would never make it as a motivational speaker.

[quote]iampulse86 wrote:
Purpose is to Live. Nuff said.[/quote]

best quote so far…

[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
IvanDmitritch wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Anyone who ever reads Nietzsche (really reads, not browses) will ever be the same again.

Absolute statements like these are idiotic, HH. Nietzsche is the opiate of intellectual dick-pullers.

Nice! If you don’t mind, I’m going to steal that one! Judging by this and your comment about Sartre, I’m guessing you don’t buy into the whole existential paradigm?

In any case, I do think there’s merit in the idea that, for the individual, life only has meaning when one decides to give it meaning. Maybe that’s the whole point. Whether you decide the meaning of life is about relationships, getting laid, finding god, or just having a good time, the point is it means whatever you decide it means. Makes sense to me anyways.

Actually, I’d describe myself as an existentialist. Unfortunately, existential writers tend to go a bit too far with their supplementary ideas. Not to mention they’re preachy as hell. A true existentialist would acknowledge that they could in fact be completely wrong, while guys like Nietzsche and Sartre are a bit too narcissistic for that. Camus was the most down-to-earth, in my opinion.

I’m not big on bigger-picture philosophy anyway. It’s not practical and amounts to pretentious bullshit. I like guys like Gracian, Epictetus, Machiavelli–stuff you can use in your life, rather than empty words that make you feel superior to other people.

Personally, I find the idea of a meaning or purpose of existence to be quite silly. Why does there have to be a meaning?

I’m also an absurdist.

Hmmmm…you’re a bit of a nihilist too,wouldn’t you say?

Like a cocktail of beliefs.

I would, at least morally. Obviously no one can put an absolute label on their beliefs. Existentialism, Absurdism, Nihilism, even solipsism to an extent–they all shed some amount of light on how I feel about the whole go-round.

Naturally I’m an atheist as well, though I do accept the possibility that I may be wrong about the higher power schtick. You may think that makes me an agnostic, but while I admit I may be wrong, I’m quite certain there is no intelligent higher power. I find it would be rather ridiculous of me to not think I could be wrong.

Higher power arguments make little sense to me. People think there needs to be some higher power for some reason I cannot understand. Why can’t it end with us? Why am I not the greatest being in existence? Or, more accurately, why can’t I be? Perhaps the unexplained wonder of the universe lies within myself, rather than without. In a situation where there are only two possibilities about which one knows absolutely nothing, logic dictates they are both equally likely. I simply sit on this side of the fence. If you like to believe in a higher power, that’s fine. It’s a valid assumption. However, I must ask you(I’m speaking generally) why you find it so difficult to imagine yourself and your fellows as so powerful. If God can be as a god, why not us?

The creation of the universe and whatnot is a tricky subject. Anyone who says it must have been orchestrated by some entity is being ignorant. If we had to be created by some specific being or power, than logic dictates the being or power itself must have likewise been created by something. If you say ‘It was always there’, then you can say the same about the universe it allegedly created. I have little concern with it, myself, as I don’t believe it matters, particularly. Not to mention there are no answers to be had.

So, as far as a purpose or meaning to life, I believe there is none. I also believe there need not be. Can you ascribe it with your own purpose or meaning? Certainly. Then it becomes the meaning. I’m loathe to do this, however, because as it is, my meaningless and purposeless existence has the freedom of a blank slate, while one who defines their purpose is then confined by their definition. Once again, I see no reason to limit myself in such a way. In this way, all purposes and lack thereof become my purpose. I like to think of it as an abyss filled with colorful balloons. I know what you’re thinking. Is it still an abyss when it’s full of colored balloons?

Yes. It’s just got fun stuff in it now.[/quote]

This was nicely put! Good words.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
The purpose of life is to be Das Übermensch.
So try not to fuck it up you bunch of peons. I don’t care what your freshmen biology teacher told you the purpose of life was. [/quote]

x2

Have you read thus rose zarathustra? I was planning on buying it.

[quote]-Tiberius- wrote:
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

arnie???.. nahh man.

The original quote is from (arguably) the greatest man in History.

Genghis Khan!
“The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.”

[quote]Neospartan wrote:
-Tiberius- wrote:
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

arnie???.. nahh man.

The original quote is from (arguably) the greatest man in History.

Genghis Khan!
“The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.”

I hate it when people post that quote. It’s so ridiculous. Everyone thinks they’re some kind of badass, but have never nor will ever do any of those things, nor would if they had the chance.

Lifting weights does not make you Genghis Khan.

Oh shit another old thread!

I hope nobody else replies! It would be terrible to revisit an idea and possibly continue it or shed new light!

Just remember that space exploration is not possibly a solution to overpopulation. If we were generous, and found that 10% of the star systems in our galaxy were capable of supporting life, at our current rate of expansion we would fill up the known universe in less than 2000 years.

[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Neospartan wrote:
-Tiberius- wrote:
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

arnie???.. nahh man.

The original quote is from (arguably) the greatest man in History.

Genghis Khan!
“The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.”

I hate it when people post that quote. It’s so ridiculous. Everyone thinks they’re some kind of badass, but have never nor will ever do any of those things, nor would if they had the chance.

Lifting weights does not make you Genghis Khan.[/quote]

Well you’re talking about the Genghis Khan one right? Because I think the Arnold one is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard him say.

[quote]fireplug52 wrote:
Just remember that space exploration is not possibly a solution to overpopulation. If we were generous, and found that 10% of the star systems in our galaxy were capable of supporting life, at our current rate of expansion we would fill up the known universe in less than 2000 years.[/quote]

…Except human population is expected to level off in the next 150-200 years due to declining fertility rates.

[quote]That One Guy wrote:
What is the purpose of life?

Here’s an interesting fact, children are hitting puberty at unheard of young ages (google it, educate yourselves). Now why is that? A popular theory (and the one I believe) is that the reason why this awkward time is happening younger is that, currently, we live in times of extreme comfort. Compared to the life that our bodies adapted to thousands of years ago, we are in heaven.

Food is abundant and pre-packaged, life-expectancy is soaring with the advent of continuingly better medical practices, and we live lives of pure gluttonous pleasure. Our bodies, are adapting to this and saying, “Hey, life’s good, let’s take advantage of good times to make more babies.” And the length of our sexually active lives is…well…lengthening.

“Because I have loved life, I shall have no sorrow to die.” Amelia Burr

-Nick Lopez[/quote]

It is also posthulated that the feminizing hormones, and hormone mimickers (xenoestrogens, [i think]) that are abundant throughout society (think water supply, food supply, air supply, aftershave supply, medicine supply etc) speed up the onset of puberty. Considering that pre-teen kids probably have more porn in their mobile phones, than their parents have even seen, it’s no surprise that sexualization is happening earlier. Bratz, MTV…

Religions theorize that this life is a preparation stage for the life that may exist after this one.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

Now I’m going back to my weed.[/quote]

Indeed, that’s part of the meaning of life as well, weed :smiley: