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The DNC invites the father of the murderous terrorist who slaughtered 49 people and wounded double that[/quote]
Got any credible evidence that he was wittingly “invited,” or is this more along the lines of what you are fantasizing to be the reality?
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but Trump is so bad for suggesting we temporarily stop immigration from Muslim countries.[/quote]
He’s so bad for lots of reasons, but they almost all fit under the umbrella of “he and his supporters are all such appallingly stupid buffoons.”
I don’t think you get how these big events work, but even taking your claim as hyperbole: again, do you have any credible evidence that he was wittingly invited?
“The father said he had been invited to the event as a Clinton supporter but had not received any special invitation from the campaign. The rally was open to the public and the Clinton campaign told WPTV that it did not know that Seddique Mateen was at the event until it had ended.”
I know I know, Trump still very very bad. You would think a man whose kid murdered 49 people would lay low, but the fact that the Clinton people didn’t see this guy shows their lack of awareness. Hell, I might even say they lack empathy, I mean if we start using definitions. But then again, we wouldn’t have conversations if we needed those, right ?
Democrats invite the father (who also filled his kid’s mind will all sorts of pro-Jihad bullshit) of a murdering terrorist, but still nothing to see here. The father of the largest terrorist act since 9/11 just strolled in with no problem.
But I know you have something for me here, but I am ready. I am buckled in, with a bible on my lap. Shit, I have an old priest and a young priest ready, I think an exorcism is in order to absorb the spin you’re about to put on this.
He’s more than just the father of the mass murdering terrorist. He has also been very vocal himself speaking about western values. But there he is standing right behind Hillary Clinton with a special invitation. Joe shmo does not get a seat like that.
Oh wow. There is no fuckin spin needed. You are either not understanding your own source, or you’re making shit up.
Per your citation, he says he was invited “as a Clinton supporter” but not specially (this fits precisely with what the organizers of the open event say: “this individual wasn’t invited as a guest and the campaign was unaware of his attendance until after the event”). And per the original interview:
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When questioned whether Clinton’s campaign knew he was going to the event and sitting directly behind the presidential candidate, Mateen said, "It’s a Democratic party, so everyone can join[/quote]
So, the available evidence says he, along with the N-thousand other people signed up for Clinton campaign information in the region, got an email about the rally “as a Clinton supporter,” just like all the “invitations” I get from both campaigns every couple of days to my spam-catching account.
To summarize and to return to our original wording: as I said from the beginning, you have exactly no evidence that he was wittingly invited to the event. In fact, all of the available evidence suggests otherwise. This has been a waste of time, as we’ve gone in a circle only to end up back where I said we were in the first place.
Maybe evidence emerges that Clinton’s organizers inexplicably sought this guy out while knowing who he was. In that case, outrage away. Until then, you’re wrong, and you continue to mistake your hopes and dreams (Clinton loves terrorists, maybe that will rescue Trump from the cesspool he’s sinking into!) for reality.
This is the part that gets me. Maybe there is some cultural difference in what constitutes an invitation, where in he is responding to an open invitation as though it were a formal invitation. Or maybe the guy is also a lunatic of some sort and attempting to become a minor political vector for his own interests. What ever it may be, its weird. That guy was within spitting distance of a presidential nominee and her security detail didn’t even raise an eyebrow. Forgetting about the optics of having the father of the most heinous mass murderer in US history sitting right behind her, the guy has some red flag raising behaviors of his own.
I guess when you think you have the FBI in your hip pocket and you’ve taken millions from Middle Eastern Countries and the many other Clinton shady deals, border line crimes. And the left wing media is silent on your epic failures as Secretary of State and …on and on…you feel pretty untouchable.
The question that remains is, will her luck hold out until November. If not she will be beaten by the single worst candidate that the republican party has put up in its entire history.
I have no idea of how old you are and I am not ridiculing you in any way so please do not take that comment wrong—But I lived through the Clinton era of the 90’s and remember it well. The Clintons bring new meaning to the word hubris. They are a special kind of evil duo and definitely DO NOT think that the law applies to them. They are smart people who use their intelligence for personal gain, sexual conquest and raw political power.
From Whitewater, to travelgate, to furnituregate to Lewinski and the many other Clinton scandals of the 90’s…
At 44 I remember them pretty well. Given that I’m not a student of politics or even remotely inclined toward the field, other than to know who is running the local stuff that directly impacts me, I feel pretty much the same way.
On the other hand it seems like the more politically savvy one is, the more respect there is to be garnered by their accomplishments. Like a junior sales associate staring in wild eyed wonder at the guy who just locked down a deal to supply one of the worlds leading cattle producers with an unlimited delivery of grade A bullshit. They’re like the Bill Brasky of politics.
With that being said, in this particular instance, I still have to extend the benefit of doubt to ole Medusa, and have to believe that Mateen is some kind of kook until something more comes to light.
The open invitation should have been closed the moment the father showed up at the entrance, and he should have the remorse to dig a hole and bury himself in it for a long while before he tries to show his face. The fact that the Hillary people missed him, and his lack of awareness shows how incompetent her campaign is, and how sociopathic he is.
This post is not about Trump’s sinking ship, it’s about the cluelessness of Hillary and her supporters. Let’s not discriminate here, David Duke also supports Clinton, shit he gave her $20k to her campaign. I have no doubt the party of equality would have let him sit there behind Hillary as she spoke about equality for all.
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The open invitation should have been closed the moment the father showed up at the entrance, and he should have the remorse to dig a hole and bury himself in it for a long while before he tries to show his face. The fact that the Hillary people missed him, and his lack of awareness shows how incompetent her campaign is, and how sociopathic he is.[/quote]
No, it shows that you don’t know shit about how these things operate. Neither campaign runs background checks on the entrants to its open rallies and events – because that would be an unbelievably stupid waste of an enormous amount of money, which is to say that it would be effectively impossible. And even if it were possible given the budgets of the campaigns, it would not be remotely cost-effective. This will not hurt Clinton because everybody not living with their head up their ass will understand that the campaign didn’t know who the guy was. Even you appear to understand that now, despite the earlier innuendo and the bullshit about Mateen having been “invited.”
More importantly, this doesn’t appear to bother you when avowed, open white supremacists file into Trump rallies and shout the word “nigger.” Maybe you should check into why that is.
David Duke says it’s “treason to you heritage” to vote against Trump, and “of course” Trump’s voters are his voters, so what the fuck are you talking about?
