The Next President of the United States: IV

I think “revolution” is a strong word. I call it progress.

I am sure you could provide a metric that shows he under performs comparatively. He’s not a fortune 500 company I am sure. But he’s a successful guy, a billionaire. In a material world, that’s success. He and his family will never have to wonder what they are going to eat today.

I wouldn’t hate sitting on his stack of cash.

You cannot ever completely get rid of people. Machines break, computers crash and companies run razor thin margins based on 100% availability of these things. Then they break, and it ends up costing $1000’s per minute while the damn thing is down. And because you laid off anybody who has the chance to fix it, you’re down for hours or days.
And you’d think the suits would have been smart enough to predict that 100% availability is not a reality. Then you realize how dumb the people you work for can be…
Because of the industry I work for, I have seen this scenario play out a bunch of times. It cracks me up every time.

They call us, “HELP! We’re down”, " Okay, calm down, what’s your failover plan, where are your backups?" …“Uh I don’t know, we laid off the people who did that stuff.” “Well, be prepared to be down a while then”

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I understand that the average American thinks the tax code is complicated, but it really isn’t. For your average W2 worker, there are only a handful of items. W2 income, mortgage interest, maybe a kid, and that’s about it.

This is the majority of the code.

No disrespect intended, but you’re exaggerating. Joe’s return is probably 2 pages long and takes 30 minutes to complete. Plus Joe Average probably doesn’t even pay taxes. You don’t start paying taxes until about $50k. The national average household income is like $55K.

I’m all for creative destruction.

A significant portion of that is to try and catch people cheating on their return.

$6B is basically nothing when compared to Medicare alone, which is a trillion dollar program. Social Security is almost a trillion dollar program.

You seem pretty confident. Trump hasn’t provided a full plan for any of his policy prescriptions.

Wonderful, me too. How are you going to pay for it?

Pretty complex question not tied to how complex the code is.

The 4th Industrial Revolution.

This is where there is a fundamental misunderstanding between the two parties to this particular discussion. No on here thinks Trump isn’t rich. No one here wouldn’t mind sitting on all that money (even though we don’t know how much cash he has on hand).

The fact of the matter is that being a billionaire in and of itself does not make him a success. His father and his father’s parents built the company he claims to have built. Inflation plays a huggggeee factor. He’s an underperformer. That’s all. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t have stacks of money or a high net worth. It just means he isn’t the business genious people make him out to be.

I’m talking specifically about low skill workers.

That was never the point.

I was responding to a post where someone was making fun of Trump for being a TV star. Sheesh.

No, go back. You used Trump’s TV stardom and how much he made per episode as evidence to why he is successful, where you used his success as evidence to why he could be a good president.

When the flaw in your logic (TV stardome = political ammo as Smh put it) you said that another president was a TV star and he was successful. Again, serious flaw in your logic as that has nothing to do with why he was or wasn’t successful as a president.

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Exactly, nobody should use it as evidence to point to why Trump is good. It’s how he made his money, good for him.

Very well said and I totally agree.

Now how does using your private email to receive high level government messages (some Top Secret)…erasing most of them to hide…something… and probably getting hacked by one of our enemies. Then being dressed down by the FBI Director for not being truthful regarding the entire mess correlate to being a good President?

I was just wondering what your thoughts were on this.

I’m not saying streamling processes doesn’t help, not even close, I’m all for that and think there are serious areas where the government needs to be cleaned up. But when Trump says he can save trillions by cutting the waste/fraud/abuse in a 300 billion dollar program, that doesn’t add up.

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It’s funny we have people who vehemently oppose Trump because he is a big mouth bragger with no experience and GASP!!! a TV Star ahhhhh…LOL. But at this point in time we have a very experienced individual who has proven that she cannot be trusted over a period of decades!

(Ground Hog Day. I can return at any point in this thread and we are talking about the same shit. Ha ha)

No historical evidence to provide a correlation to, so not sure. Lots of variables, if other countries have sensitive information to blackmail her, probably would hurt… but overall I don’t think it would matter much at all in the direct sense.

To me, it is more a reflection of character/ethics/integrity, which I think to matter for the president. Considering that angle, I think that hurts her, and the email is evidence of that, but the email wouldn’t harm in a direct way unless more facts get out that we don’t know about.

I think Hillary’s presidency will have absolutely nothing to do with emails, there will be other scandals, I’m more worried about her domestic policies, and her overall integrity. I think those will shape her tenure much more than this current scandal.

You’re mixing my posts up.

TB: Trump was born into money and isn’t successful
Me: TV show is an example of success

SMH: TV stars are losers and shouldn’t be president
me: Oh yeah what about Reagan

Nope, not even close, nice straw man though.

Here’s Smh:

America 2016, where “you are not an orange reality-TV buffoon wallowing in the D-list dignityless cesspool with Snooki and Big Ang” is thought to be ammunition in political debate.

TV stardome =/= political ammo as you are using it (thats what he said). Reagan was not just a TV star, and his success or lack of success has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his TV stardom. You cannot use Reagan as an example of how TV stars can be great poltiicians because his stardom and his presidency are not related.I would even say TV star = successful as you are using it is quite the stretch, but at least there is something to that argument. Good grief man.

Um…Yeah but hey it’s worth the risk.

Huh? You didn’t ask if it was risky… You asked if the emails correlate to being a good president. I have no idea what other governments have on her, so how would I know how it will alter her presidency in any way? This is a pointless conversation about what ifs and hypotheticals. Why not actually talk about her and Trump’s policy proposals?

Her integrity?

Why would anyone be worried about Hillary’s integrity?

There’s nothing to worry about we all know exactly where she is coming from. She has no integrity and the highest bidder gets whatever they want. Just look at how her and her rapist husband Bill left the White House broke (as she likes to say), and voila years later the Clinton Foundation is worth well over 100 million dollars.

And we all know that there were no promises attached to any of those donations. We all also know that she never took a dime from Countries that denigrate women.

Yep…nothing to worry about we know what we’re getting with Hillary.

Exactly!

And that is why we should definitely take a risk with her. After all she speaks in complete sentences and she was first lady and gosh it is her turn.

Okay…go ahead. If I find it even remotely interesting I will respond. Otherwise we should continue the GH Day conversation.

Yup. And the beginning of the exchange didn’t go the way he says either:

So he wasn’t using Trump’s TV show as a mere example of Trump’s successfulness (which on its own would have been bad enough, as most people above a certain very low threshold would not for any amount of money surrender so much dignity in so public and pathetic and ridiculous a manner as the Trumps and Buseys and Snookis of the world). He was using it as some kind of very confused ad hom against TB.

Wages rising in Hungary…no immigration

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-04/hungary-s-labor-woes-may-trigger-wage-explosion-minister-says

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