It’s a nonresponsive answer.
Why should a California Republican vote for the GOP nominee knowing full well California is going to Hillary? Isn’t this a wasted vote, by your definition.
Wasted vote, yes or no?
Asked and answered YAWN
Lol… Again, really?
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I will give you credit for one thing…(here it comes) you are a consistent individual
cleaned it up this one time.
A. Republicans have won California in the past.
B. Independents have never won California in the past.
Um…that is just about as simple as I can break it down.
Ok, I’ll answer it for you.
No, it isn’t a wasted vote. Though California Republicans are fully aware their votes will not contribute to the election result (whether the GOP candidate wins or not), they cast their vote with pride in support of their preferred candidate for moral reasons and to send a message with their vote beyond the mere arithmetic of the ballot count.
Exact same thing with third party votes. Will the vote directly affect who wins in 2016? Nope. But the vote is meaningul, especially for 2018 and 2020. Imagine the kind of party correction that could take place in the GOP after 2016 if enough disaffected conservatives vote for Johnson. No vote is a wasted vote.
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Um, this has nothing to do with it. See my other post.
I decided to spare the thread of the slow motion train wreck of Zeb claiming a thousand times he answered a question when he didn’t.
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I did answer twice. You were alleging that since California is so liberal that a vote for the republican is a waste. I pointed out that republicans have won California in the past but independents never have.
As for your previous point, I think we agree. Go vote your conscience. But, just know that whomever you vote for other than the two party candidates will lose.
Simple
This is what you asked and my answer is below. No dodge a straight answer and…with examples. You are the engineer of the train wreck if you continue.
[quote=“thunderbolt23, post:1059, topic:218984”]
So, California Republicans are wasting their votes voting for the GOP candidate each election year?[/quote]
One of the two major party candidates will win. When is the last time a third party candidate beat a republican in California? I don’t recall that ever happening do you? So why vote for a third party candidate?
On the other hand a republican has taken California in the past. Reagan won California and George HW Bush also won California in 1988. Granted they were both a while ago, but it can be done under the right circumstances with the right candidate. A third party vote is an automatic throwaway.
And again for the third time (I believe) go vote your conscience.
Italy has never had an ideology that was a direct threat to America, not to mention their military would get their ass kicked by our own Boy Scouts. Neither did the Irish or the Polish. If anything, Italy has a lot of love for America, for they would be speaking German right now had America not gotten involved in WW2. Something you won’t find in a history book, after Hitler was beaten, Italians cheered as American tanks roamed through the streets of Rome with soldiers throwing Hershey chocolate bars to the crowds of cheering locals. One of those kids was my dad.
Even Lucky Luciano showed his patriotism by making a deal with the government, he would make sure no Germans would ever get passed the docks in exchange for them not prosecuting him. Sure he was a crime boss, at least he appreciated the new land that provided him such riches.
The bottom line is, not all immigrants are the same. Look at what the Irish, Italian, and Polish did to the East Coast, you will not find such accomplishments on the West Coast.
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That was me not tbolt, and you’re still playing the short game as ActivitiesGuy has said.
It’s an argument because you keep bringing up that it has never happened before, and therefore it CANNOT happen. This is obviously false, which is why I posted that. Just because something has never happened in the past (which is not technically true either), does not mean that it forever and always is prohibited from happening.
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Imagine where the Republican Party would be if its early members followed Zeb’s short-sighted advice and kept voting Democrat or Whig despite their growing aversion to slavery and their parties’ unwillingness to address it:
I agree with all of the above, but that is not why I posted the links.
Lots of wasted votes:
The party of Lincoln might never have existed.
“The Constitutional Republic has never existed and it never will! Monarchy or nothing!”
-None of the Founding Fathers
History has clearly demonstrated that third party candidates do not win the White House. There are reasons that this does not happen. I’ve given a few over the past several weeks. Go read your Presidential political history and tell me where I am wrong.