The Next President of the United States: IV

You will not post ever again in PWI. Deal.

Not 20 minutes ago you told me I wasn’t laughing in my office. A sweepingly inaccurate and outlandish statement backed up by zero facts. You really are a fucking idiot.

Now you have taken to repeating verbatim others lines. Oh my.

That you are a hot headed immature ass kisser I need no further evidence.

Huh?

That’s because you’re a clown that isn’t interested in facts, logic, or reason. Aka your typical Trump supporter.

Says the guy that’s been using the phrase “butt boy”. You cannot be a real person.

Or, our country’s interests aren’t all that different, and don’t see Clinton as a positive in that arena.

Speaking specifically on continued ME involvement in the current capacity and other energy focused policy.

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Lol yeah.

I used to try to insult people by using terms like “buttboy” to accuse them of being gay.

Then my voice changed and I started shaving and got my first job, and before I knew it, “buttboy” ceased to be among the words in my vocabulary. Weird.

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I thought you were going to stop talking to me? You did say something like that 5 or 6 posts ago didn’t you? What’s the matter did you temper get the best of you AGAIN?

But you didn’t quite grow up enough to be strong enough to stand behind your words. I say Trump will win you apparently think Hillary will win.

I say let’s bet and you dance all around the topic with several different excuses. That to me is being childish.

So once again put up or shut up.

(Knowing that he is incapable of doing either)

I didn’t say I was going to stop talking to you. Is English not your first language?

Our countries’ interests are totally different and literally no group of people believes this more fervently than the one in control of the Russian Federation. It would be difficult to overstate the extent to which Putin and his inner circle (and nearly every ordinary Russian you meet on the streets of St. Petersburg) view geopolitics as a zero sum game, the Cold War as an ongoing conflict, and the denial of American interests as a Russian imperative.

As for the Middle East, nobody, Putin included, thinks that Donald Trump is going to serve American interests vis-a-vis terror or the larger region. This is why the GOP natsec establishment is not supporting Trump.

You aren’t standing behind your words either. You’re sitting behind them, behind an anonymous username, behind a computer screen. It doesn’t take gumption to make an internet wager or call someone stupid for that matter.

Yet, you continue to do it because you are a hot head and can’t stand it when someone calls you out.

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Excellent point.

Russia has its own issues with Islamic terrorism. Maybe they don’t want another President who stokes the flames of Islamic terror by constantly messing up ME countries.

We are on the Internet are we not? Uh huh…he thinks Trump will lose does he not? Uh huh…Yet he is not willing to put up a wager because he is not quit as sure of himself as he likes to pretend. I on the other hand am saying Trump will win and have been and am willing to stand behind my words.

Glad I could catch you up on the topic.

Oh …and good cut and paste that is what you do best.

Wrong.

Trump has done extremely well with members of the armed forces across the nation.

I don’t know about that so much anymore, on a macro level.

Besides, backing Clinton has plenty of implications of implosion in and of itself.

Please don’t take this as Trump support, it isn’t. I’m just saying I don’t know that Putin/Russian strategy is as simple as I’m reading your posts. “Trump bad, push for him.”

Don’t under=estimate the power fo greed, and the power having a fuck ton of money and natural resources has, the ME rich with Oil, and the obvious way that current admin is not doing a good job with that region, translates into Clinton = more Obama, and less Money for Russia.

America doesn’t need more friction with enemies. What should he have said?

I don’t know who the wall street types personally want. The voting block is traditionally republican and I don’t know if the courting of Hillary by way of the Clinton Foundation and speeches is payment for services already rendered as she was a NY Senator.
There could be a sense of the devil you know vs. the devil you don’t on Wall street since Trump is an X factor, but Wall Street is the Red Light district in the traditionally blue states.
Nevertheless, NY is going for the D regardless.

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I don’t know about that so much anymore, on a macro level.

Besides, backing Clinton has plenty of implications of implosion in and of itself.

Please don’t take this as Trump support, it isn’t. I’m just saying I don’t know that Putin/Russian strategy is as simple as I’m reading your posts. “Trump bad, push for him.”[/quote]

(Prefatory note: Not taking anything as Trump support, I promise.)

I haven’t put it that simply. As I explained, there is no question that Trump has surrounded himself with people who are intimately tied to the Kremlin. These ties are not in dispute, and they are a matter of public knowledge.

Perhaps because of this (or perhaps because Donald Trump is extravagantly stupid and needs no encouragement to arrive ass-first at the wrong conclusion in every possible case), Trump has been overtly weak and warm on Russia in general and Putin in particular. While the FSB/GRU was (the evidence suggests) intervening in an American election on Trump’s behalf, he was publicly claiming that he would not necessarily honor Article V in the event of a Russian assault on a NATO member state.

You can’t make this shit up, and, really, it is dispositive. It settles our disagreement. Because such an appallingly weak and nonsensical and unprecedented policy as Trump has proposed vis-a-vis Russia – such utter idiocy – would upend the geopolitical order (not a good thing for the one who’s on top, mind you) and vitiate, to Russia’s overt benefit, what has been the defining instrument of American geopolitical hegemony for decades.

Of course Putin wants this, because, as I said earlier, all of the available evidence (and there is much) suggests that he and his inner circle are as aware as anybody that his interests diverge from American interests almost diametrically. Given this fact, and it is a fact to even the most casual observer of 21st century Russian affairs, Putin would still want Trump even if it weren’t for Manafort and all the squishy pathetic pro-Kremlin rhetoric…because Trump is a uniquely stupid, uniquely incompetent candidate who has made an itinerant circus act out of not understanding even the most basic things about world affairs and American government. He has repeatedly proposed, out loud, the ruination of American economic and military institutions. Be assured: anybody who fancies himself our rival is salivating at the prospect of a President Trump.

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I don’t know, maybe he shouldn’t have so eagerly accepted Putin’s praise?

But then again I wouldn’t have said 99% things Trump has said.

But then again when you think about it, I’m just some guy and he’s turned himself from a laughing stock into a likely POTUS thanks to his verbal skills, so what do I know.

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