Read what I wrote - I didn’t say anything about paying less. I am simply asking if your rule about limousine liberals paying more in taxes than what the law requires should apply to populists who claim the law unfairly favors the wealthy?
Sure, I think a bigger issue is how our money is being spent. If people see their money being spent wisely and improving our society, then most people would agree that paying taxes is worth it.
It’s a reflection of where he stands on the issue of race, and I mean where he really stands. Does it matter now, no. It’s just sad that I have to sit and listen to a man scold me about tolerance, diversity, and inclusion when he is clearly none of those himself.
It’s a reflection of where he stands on the issue of race in the sense that he was accurately describing the issue of race in Kenya. Unless you believe you know enough about race relations in 1980s Kenya to refute what he’s saying, you don’t have the ability to deem his assessment unfortunate.
I can tell you with first-hand certainty that the white descendants of the Happy Valleyers are repugnant, officially-privileged scumbags today. Would you bet that they were less so thirty years ago?
Ok, so when Trump said it is unfair for wealthy people to pay so few taxes (in the GOP primary), like your limousine liberal, what he should have done is pay in what he believed to be his “fair” share over the years? Right?
No, I am not aware of race relations in 1980’s Kenya, I also didn’t run to rule the greatest country on Earth. A man with who had such views shape his opinions probably isn’t the best choice to run a country. This just explains a lot about his behavior, now it’s not even rhetoric or a partisan talking point anymore.
I really don’t understand this argument TB. There are all sorts of laws that I think are unfair, but I still have to abide by them or risk the consequences. A person is expect to follow what the law minimally requires, anything more than that is up to the individual. The difference I see with rich Liberals who cry for more taxes is that no one is stopping them from paying more on their own. Trump is saying he is a business man, who finds way to save money whereever he can legally. If the laws are unfair then change them, but I’m not going to blame someone for navigating the tax laws to best favor themselves.
The argument is dirt simple - just like limousine liberals, Trump complains that taxes for rich people ought to be higher for public policy reasons. You said limousine liberals should pay more than they are required to by law…so Trump should, too, right, for the exact same reasons?
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No, I am not aware of race relations in 1980’s Kenya, I also didn’t run to rule the greatest country on Earth. A man with who had such views shape his opinions probably isn’t the best choice to run a country. [/quote]
I don’t know what you’re saying. You’ve already admitted that you don’t know anything about 1980s Kenyan race relations, so we know with certainty that you can’t have a legitimately critical opinion of Obama’s views on 1980s Kenyan race relations.
Let’s assume for a moment that I’m right, and what one sees in Kenya and other African countries in the modern day was only more overt and severe in the 80s, when all the colonial “settling” was even fresher in the past. In this incredibly likely scenario, Obama is (articulately, for a twenty-something American) describing reality in an accurate manner. What is the problem, exactly? You prefer that your politicians come from the head-in-ass-nothin-to-see-here school of racial understanding? That’s a tall and absurd order for a black kid during whose childhood this was the law of the land:
Take the Trump blinders off and watch the debate again. Kaine had nothing to offer except interruptions. If this was to be a debate based on substance and not how Pence should defend Trump, it’s clear Pence came out on top. Kaine only had the same tired dialogue of promised government compulsion.