The Israel / Hamas Conflict

Why do you think that? You have a welfare state . That’s an attempt to allow those rights.

In Theory they could pass a resolution to enforce it e.g. humanitarian aid in Gaza
But our barbaric governments choose not too .

Enforce it to what extent?
Please do be specific.

With the full might of a unified un armyagainst the aggresor

FEED YOUR PEOPLE OR WE’LL KILL YOUR PEOPLE

I see the education in your country is also state funded.

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When they evacuated concentration camps and could no longer use the railways.

Because it’s a war. Why would you warn the enemy when you are going to attack? It’s rather counter productive. Besides, when you are at war you should kind of expect to get attacked at some point.

Then you might not have valid rights to the land you live on. And this goes for 99% of the world.

Getting attacked by your neighbors can have that effect.

You do know the US and other nations have been doing that. And why no talk of Hamas’ and Iran’s responsibilities here? For some reason whenever the word humanitarian is used, it is always about the West’s responsibility to do the humanitarian acts. We have to recognize the value of other humans more than their own people. How dare Israel kill those civilians while they also killed Hamas members. How about, how dare Hamas use their own people as human shields. How dare Hamas strap suicide vests on their own (well not their own but other Palestinians) kids, even those who are developmentally disabled. How dare Hamas bomb their own hospital. The soft bigotry of low expectations with a side of antisemitism. I think people believe the Jews have taken so much shit over the centuries that nothing is wrong with a little more. They should be used to it.

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Convert or die is not mercy…ever. There is a reason zealots in movies doing this same thing you mention here under the guise of “guidance” and “mercy” are always the villain. It’s an archetype based in reality.

Thanks for proving my point though.

But if we could have stopped Stalin starving the Ukrainians or indeed Putin , I’d be for it yes. To prevent millions dying .

Forcing régime change is not a new idea to the USA either.

To be clear:

YOU are willing to risk YOUR life, to kill other men you do not know, to force their government to feed their people?

Or are you on board with sending someone else to do that?

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Israel recognised the rules of armed engagement on paper but not in practice. If you agreed to the treaties ,abide by them or exit them.

Turn on your TV the bombings are obviously Indiscriminate along with killing of Journalists

Not sure what good I would be to honest. But in my youth I would have . I don’t like the idea of killing someone personally now. That may be moral cowardice, if you like. But it is the truth

That isn’t the bad part. The bad part is that you would end up killing a lot of those people you want to save in order to get rid of Stalin. Note the double standard with regard to Israel. They want to get rid of who is in charge of Gaza which will ultimately benefit the Palestinians but for some reason Israel is the bad guy in this scenario.

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Yeah, I’m not on board with those who would conscript others for their beliefs, but would not do so themselves.

Thanks but no thanks.

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A: I doubt that’s true as it would be a waste of ordnance and not have any strategic value.
B: If it were true you wouldn’t be able to tell that from watching TV.

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Oh, you mean like the missile attack that indiscriminately targeted civilian areas in Israel?

Knowing about the IDF and reading about their capabilities, Anything they launch will not be indiscriminate.

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I was watching a video of the IDF’s Steel Sting mortar rounds that are laser guided.

Cool stuff, less math, more accurate boomies, more… descriminate.

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It seems like much of the civilized world sees Hamas as not only bad for Israel but bad for the Palestinians. Hamas needs to go. You don’t like the idea of killing people but how exactly do we get rid of Hamas? By killing them. How do you kill them and not kill “innocent” civilians? I heard that dumb ass from the Young Turks saying Israel should use Special Ops to go in and surgically eliminate Hamas as if Hamas is a handful of people and not an organization with thousands of troops with an HQ in Qatar I believe, and the backing of Iran.

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Both regimes need to be changed.

Who recently got a surplus of $6 billion after a prisoner exchange Biden orchestrated with Iran… one month before the attack.

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That’s minor tech compared to some of the stuff they have…

More accurate weaponry = less collateral damage and less non-combatants injured.

Very much the opposite of Hamas’ attack.

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