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[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I didn’t reply because the inquirer smelled like bacon, well my reasons are that like if I get my gear delivered to my home I can simply state, “oops this aint mine I ordered creatine.” I can do the same with the P.O Box, also I get alot of mail from the previous renter. I’ve never signed for any package that doesn’t fit in the sum bitch. I merely ask for my Jenna Haze collection and the lady kindly hands it to me without question. As for the ID, yeah they have me on record but all I get deliverd there are bills and porno. For all I know the previous renter was a bodybuilder, right? I don’t care if they will probably only bust me for a huge order, if they’re bored enough they will fuck me. With the ways things are right now I’m not taking any chances. [/quote]

lol I got a letter from the county for a guy that rented my box before me

held it to the light and you can see inside it big read letters saying WARRENT FOR ARREST came from child support enforcment

guy dosent even know it poor bastard

[quote]nichaaron wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
I didn’t reply because the inquirer smelled like bacon, well my reasons are that like if I get my gear delivered to my home I can simply state, “oops this aint mine I ordered creatine.” I can do the same with the P.O Box, also I get alot of mail from the previous renter. I’ve never signed for any package that doesn’t fit in the sum bitch. I merely ask for my Jenna Haze collection and the lady kindly hands it to me without question. As for the ID, yeah they have me on record but all I get deliverd there are bills and porno. For all I know the previous renter was a bodybuilder, right? I don’t care if they will probably only bust me for a huge order, if they’re bored enough they will fuck me. With the ways things are right now I’m not taking any chances.

lol I got a letter from the county for a guy that rented my box before me

held it to the light and you can see inside it big read letters saying WARRENT FOR ARREST came from child support enforcment

guy dosent even know it poor bastard

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“WARRENT FOR ARREST” in big letters, huh? You sure?

[quote]BestDaddyEver wrote:
nichaaron wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
I didn’t reply because the inquirer smelled like bacon, well my reasons are that like if I get my gear delivered to my home I can simply state, “oops this aint mine I ordered creatine.” I can do the same with the P.O Box, also I get alot of mail from the previous renter. I’ve never signed for any package that doesn’t fit in the sum bitch. I merely ask for my Jenna Haze collection and the lady kindly hands it to me without question. As for the ID, yeah they have me on record but all I get deliverd there are bills and porno. For all I know the previous renter was a bodybuilder, right? I don’t care if they will probably only bust me for a huge order, if they’re bored enough they will fuck me. With the ways things are right now I’m not taking any chances.

lol I got a letter from the county for a guy that rented my box before me

held it to the light and you can see inside it big read letters saying WARRENT FOR ARREST came from child support enforcment

guy dosent even know it poor bastard

“WARRENT FOR ARREST” in big letters, huh? You sure?[/quote]

didnt open it up and read it but thats sure what it looked like from reading through the thing.
I have heard about them sending out letters to notify you of things but since I never to date had one I dont know.

I just gave it back to the mail lady and told her he wasnt using my box I didnt know the guy.

It always good to be on the safe side, but always remember:

if they want you they are gonna get you

[quote]jpositive wrote:
Po box not the one, some were that is not related to you or your name any thing like that. Then just hope its the really shit, there is so much fake crap out there.

Jp[/quote]

Anybody having as much trouble reading this post as i am?

bmc

Sure,use a fake name. Then if you do get busted,they add fraud to the charges! Be safe.

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I didn’t reply because the inquirer smelled like bacon[/quote]

LOL. For once in my life I would rather have been called a “noob” or even “ghey”. But no offense taken as I’m not Muslim.

And no, I wasn’t asking any question. It was more of a leading question if anything.

I’ve had a few successful transactions online. General guide lines in my book for ordering internationally:

The hardest part is finding a legit source. None will be registered (website that is) in the US. Also, watch out for sites that have adverts all over them. BIG red flag. They’re a site selling OTC supps with “roid like” names if you see that shit. Most legit sources, if they have a site, will have a very clean, and a secure site requiring you to sign up for a secure username/password login.

If you do not already have one, get a secure, encrypted email account with safe-mail.net, cyber rights, securenym, etc. Avoid hushmail. Many sources will not communicate with you with a ‘commercial’ account like AOL, yahoo, etc.

I have a legit sounding false name. “James Smith” for example. I use that name for my Western Union, and “Ship To”. Unless you send over $999 you don’t need to show ID, so no need to be all shifty eyed and nervous when the high school kid is wiring your money. Most WU “clerks” are kids.

Make sure before you leave, all info was entered accurately. From my experience, a legit overseas source will not require a “test question and answer” on the WU info form. That’s just one more potential area for a big eff up. If the kid happens to ask a stupid question about whoever you’re wiring money to, tell him/her it’s not really theyre business, but you friend, or cousin in Pakistan (for example) needed some money. I doubt they’ll ask anyway.

Most international sources seem to also have three main shipment options. Registered Air, Unregistered Air, and Registered Express. If you want a higher chance of getting your order, avoid Registered Express. With all the b.s. going on right now…an American getting an order from Asia, or wherever with extra “rush” shipping on the package raises red flags. Also, keep in mind you will need to SIGN for whatever you order if you choose Registered Express, or Registered Air. I don’t like having to sign.

That’s an acknowledgment on my part that I did indeed order what’s in the package. If it’s just left in my mailbox, it was just left in my mailbox. Wrong deliveries happen every day. :wink: I’ve not had an issue getting what I’ve ordered using Unregistered Air.

Most sources also break up your order into small packages. From my experience so far, they are small, non descript packages. My last order for example, I got the first part in 2 weeks, and the rest came 2 weeks later.

I also order ONLY what I need. A cycle or two at a time. Since I only do a couple cycles a year, I only need to order about once a year. Just makes sense for “James Smith” in USA to only have a friend from overseas sending him something once a year or so vs every few months or more.

If you’re fortunate enough to stumble onto a legit DOMESTIC source (from within the U.S.) God Bless you. I don’t know of any. There supposedly are still many out there, but they most likely do not have a site, and operate on a secure email/list only basis.

Don’t PM me asking for sources either. I’ve worked hard enough to find mine, and lost $$ in the process. That’s up to you to find your own. It’s a ‘right of passage’ per se. Good luck, stay safe!

Good Post.

It is not hard to get a fake drivers license made (ordered online) that as real looking as the real deal. Many on-line Personal Mail Box companies require you to send a notarized form back to them by US mail. The identification required involves a picture ID (fake ID) and some other form of ID (e.g., *lease agreement, *rental agreement) that does not involve a picture.

Many of these companies then sign for the package, scan the image of the package and then place it on-line for your perusal via secure server/login. After you view the image you can then have that package forwarded anywhere you want, discard it, hold it, or pick it up. Many of these on-line companies have hubs in the largest cities. I have my hub across the country and have the shipments sent to another personal mail box.

I don’t think you can get more safe and secure as that.

*fake

awesome post fmr, shadow hunter I said you smelled like bacon because you sounded like a pig. By pig I mean cop. Its code red in my camp boys. fmr whats wrong with hushmail?

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
whats wrong with hushmail? [/quote]

“A September court document (.pdf) from a federal prosecution of alleged steroid dealers reveals the Canadian company turned over 12 CDs worth of e-mails from three Hushmail accounts, following a court order obtained through a mutual assistance treaty between the U.S. and Canada. The charging document alleges that many Chinese wholesale steroid chemical providers, underground laboratories and steroid retailers do business over Hushmail.”

what are the odds you get busted if you use your real name, real address, use gmail, and transfer the money via western union online? (assume a purchase under $500)

[quote]MMAguy wrote:
what are the odds you get busted if you use your real name, real address, use gmail, and transfer the money via western union online? (assume a purchase under $500)[/quote]

I wouldn’t say THOSE factors would play a role in you getting busted. It’s more about other outside factors. Does customs just happen to open YOUR pack with your name, actual street address, etc? Then, if they decide to forward their findings to the DEA, they’ve already got a pack with your name, home address. Suppose they get a warrant. Then they search your residence, your computer.

The more info you have directly tying YOU to this order the worse off you would be. That is if someone wanted to make and example of you. I’ve yet to hear about individuals though getting much attention for personal quantities. $500-$1,000 worth of gear isn’t dealer quantities. Mostly the dealers getting all the attention.

All that said though, when you have nothing tying you directly to an order, you have plausible deniability on your side. Prove that I sent that cash via WU to some guy I don’t know in whatever country…that name’s not mine…proof? Oh here’s my license, social, etc. That’s not me.

Maybe I don’t know much though.

yeah, i guess what it really comes down to is to what degree do the feds really want to go after small time buyers purchasing only individual quantities? I dunno the answer to that…