The Inauguration

[NealRaymond2]

[quote]tedro wrote:
“Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around ? when yellow will be mellow ? when the red man can get ahead, man ? and when white will embrace what is right.”

Just going down a list? Why did he choose whites as the only color to make a negative remark about?

I really didn’t expect the race card to be pulled out this early, but that is exactly what happened here. Yep, we all get it. We just elected our first black president but whites embracing wrong has still forced blacks to the back of the line and kicked latinos out completely.
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Actually, “when yellow will be mellow” seems kind of negative as well – it could reasonably be interpreted as implying that East Asian Americans work too hard; or study too hard; or are too demanding; or are somehow “uptight” (bad) rather than “mellow” (good).

[Magarhe]

I look forward to the day when a black man is elected president, and nobody notices, mentions or cares that he is black.

That is not belittling the significance of current events, just pointing out this is another step forward, not the end of racism.

Personally I wonder why secretary of state wasn’t good enough, no, it had to be all the way - president. OK that’s cool there is a black president, but it kind of belittles the millions of other black people who have achieved great things. What, that wasn’t enough? Well now there is a black president I hope there are no more complaints or excuses.

As for slavery, well today slavery is more widespread than it ever was in the past. And nobody seems to give a damn. I think it is pretty rude complaining about slavery that happened to your great grandparents when you are reaping benefits from slavery TODAY with the products you buy and the people who are exploited to bring them to you. And that is just sweatshop slavery, which is nothing compared to fullblown slavery that is out there, yet nobody cares about.

[zephead4747]

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:

Obama has a clue about economics? since when?

You don’t have a clue either. You think bigger tax cuts would have done the trick. And less regulation.

Never mind that the problem started in the US where there is less regulation already.[/quote]

LOL. you’re such a joke.

[jsbrook]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:

My comment had to do with you acting like this was not a very significant event…which anyone with any sane thoughts in their head can clearly see IS.

How is that a “racial feeling”? It’s called “the truth”.

Most people I’ve talked to have thought the media orgasm was at least mildly excessive. Maybe everyone I know is insane.

Like I said, I couldn’t even listen to ESPN radio yesterday. Forgive me for wanting to hear sports talk on sports talk radio.

Not to mention the guy is now the leader of the free world and it seems to me that his policies and intention have been glossed over media’s insentient attention to color.

I honestly care 0% that a black man was elected. You care an awful lot about his skin color. I think I’m more in line with Dr. Kings beliefs.[/quote]

You are clearly not. King longed for a time when color of skin means nothing. We’re not there yet. To GET there, substantial hurdles had to be cleared. It is a VERY big deal that a black man has reached the presidency in a country that still practiced segregation until the 1960s. Something that would’ve been impossible a few decades ago doesn’t just become something achieved as a matter of course. There’s a process.

[pat]

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:

Obama has a clue about economics? since when?

You don’t have a clue either. You think bigger tax cuts would have done the trick. And less regulation.

Never mind that the problem started in the US where there is less regulation already.

LOL. you’re such a joke.[/quote]

A bad, stupid joke.

[ALDurr]

[quote]Lorisco wrote:

Why is it historical?

I don’t understand this ‘historical’ stuff they are spouting in the media.

Either it is historical because there finally is a black man who is qualified to be the president, or historical because instead of voting for someone because they are white everyone voted for someone because they were black.

Either way is bogus IMO. So historical? I think not.

The best man was elected and that is all there is to it.

[/quote]

You honestly don’t understand how any of this is historical? You aren’t serious are you? I know that I have given you shit in the past, but by making this statement, it says way more about you than anything anyone could say. You can’t possibly be this clueless.

[ALDurr]

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
I think the speech kicked off the new millenium.

…and it should have been kicked off the television. Notice the small and polite applause, the audience being shocked that their Messiah couldn’t give a decent speech, one with an actual theme, instead of rambling bits the guy thought up while taking a hot bath or taking a shit.

Most important speech of the guy’s life, and he rambles around with a pieced together piece of crap like that!

[/quote]

This just goes to show you the difference between watching this event on TV and actually being there. The small polite applause that you described was the editing job done by whatever network you were watching. I was there and the applause was anything BUT small and polite. It was thunderous. Much like the boos that Bush and Cheney received when they were introduced. Many things were edited out or toned down for the TV audience.

As far as your opinion about the speech, and anything else for that matter, the source of the opinion will be taken under consideration before commenting.

[belligerent]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is truly hilarious. I’m not even the one who brought up that “poem” but I get labeled as “doing it now”?

That doesn’t even make any sense. If anyone challenges what one of you says, it means the person disagreeing is “degenerating into a cesspool of racial shit” but the people who brought it up aren’t? [/quote]

I don’t care about the poem. I’m not that sensitive.

I think that the point of this thread, which you started, was clearly to imply that the lack of discussion about the inaguration was evidence of prejudice on the part of white posters here. You were suggesting that we were denying a black man his rightful props.

Speaking only for myself, I had intended not to discuss Obama on this forum anymore because I really have nothing good to say about him, and criticism is usually interpreted as either racism or support for George Bush (or in your case, both, having made that insipid Bush comment in response to my first post). So I decided that I would just try to keep my fucking opinions to myself from now on, since criticizing him is simply a no-win situation.

Then this fucking retarded thread pops up. You accuse people of prejudice when they complain about Barack, and you accuse people of prejudice when they don’t post about him at all. I had thought you were the smartest people on this site, but you seem to have become as irrational as everyone else over Obama.

[Ground_N_Pound]

All i have to say on this subject, is that this day was a historical event. Its the first time a non white man has been elected to the white house. I hope everyone that sees today as a historical event, will have the same feelings when a woman, a jewish person, a asian, a hispanic, take office in the white house. All those will happen one day, and in my eyes all will be just as historic as today.

I do think that it was a bit over done though, Maybe not because of his race, but maybe because a lot of people where happy to see Bush go? or maybe because they have hope that he will fix some problems that are going on in this country.

My only hope is that i can make fun of the president, just like i did with Bush, without being seen as a racist. Time will tell with that though.

[MaddyD]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
forlife wrote:
I voted for Obama because I considered him the most capable candidate, not because of the color of his skin.

That said, you have to admit it is historically significant having a black president. There was a time in our history when a black man couldn’t even vote, let alone become the most powerful leader in the world, irrespective of his actual qualifications to lead.

and think about it, the building he will be working out of was built for the most part by slaves,

so to have a black man Run the place that black men died at the crack of a whip to build,is kind of a big deal

The way I understand it theY exploited a lot of cheap white immigrant labor too. If only one day we can see a Scottish, Italian, or Irish president.

Not that I don’t understand the irony and ultimate justice of the situation, but you are being a little dramatic.[/quote]

irish pres was JFK ya?

but what I have read was they tried to employ European labor but no one wanted to accept the bid.
so for being between Virgina and Maryland 2 slave states that meant most the labor came from slaves in the area.
the cheap white labor was craftsmen that came over to oversee the work done by the laborers. not to do the work themselves.

but ya Im not trying to be dramatic about it just saying lets not downplay the importance of this step that we are taking as a country.

Especially when there are still people from past generation ( my grandmother) who knows nothing of the issues and admittedly does not care about the issues or the direction the country may go in,she will vote for someone because she and her own words “does not want a damned negro in office”
“when they get in office and ruin the country they will do what they can to enslave the whites to get back at us”

this is the ignorance that people had and still have today, its what was pounded in to children heads from way back and the fact that people will get past that even in the last 40 years or so is a huge step in the right direction.

[MaddyD]

[quote]pushharder wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
…she will vote for someone because she and her own words “does not want a damned negro in office”…

I guarantee you that for every person like your grandmother there were ten who voted for him precisely because of his color.

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sadly this is also true, I am hoping not but I do believe this is true.
but there was also some that voted because of what he stood for and thats progress at least

it also shows me one thing.
if people speak loud enough they get what they want, but are the people as a whole smart enough to really know what they want?

[MaddyD]

[quote]pushharder wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
pushharder wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
…she will vote for someone because she and her own words “does not want a damned negro in office”…

I guarantee you that for every person like your grandmother there were ten who voted for him precisely because of his color.

sadly this is also true, I am hoping not but I do believe this is true.
but there was also some that voted because of what he stood for and thats progress at least

it also shows me one thing.
if people speak loud enough they get what they want, but are the people as a whole smart enough to really know what they want?

I have a theory that collectively we get what we deserve.[/quote]

without a doubt

[Mikeyali]

In the event Obama doesn’t provide the rainbow shitting unicorn he has promised us all you guys that won’t shut up about the fact that he’s black is going to set this country back on race relations and ultimate success.

The electorate will only remember the fact that everyone kept talking about him being black and will not vote for anything but WASPs for the next hundred years. They won’t remember that we got boned because he’s a socialist; they’ll just keep hearing “first black president” reverberate in their hollow skulls. This will totally screw us when the people disregard the Walter Williamses and Thomas Sowelles of the country.

Thanks assholes.

mike

[TooHuman]

Wait…
President Obama is black?
I hadn’t noticed.

[Magarhe]

[quote]This just goes to show you the difference between watching this event on TV and actually being there. The small polite applause that you described was the editing job done by whatever network you were watching. I was there and the applause was anything BUT small and polite. It was thunderous. Much like the boos that Bush and Cheney received when they were introduced. Many things were edited out or toned down for the TV audience.

As far as your opinion about the speech, and anything else for that matter, the source of the opinion will be taken under consideration before commenting.[/quote]

That is interesting, to hear from someone who was there. Of course the media have jiggled with the coverage. Being in UK, I think we got a bit of a fairer coverage, you could NOT hear the booing when Bush came out, but the reporter commented about it and said that it happened.

Now, I HATE that shit. I hate the way the US media is controlled by a few powerful jerks pushing their own agenda. This is something that should not happen.

Which makes me say, as a kid you think superman is the hero, as an adult, you realise the Daily Planet is the hero, and in real life, just as absent as superman. grr

Someone made the point that if Obama stuffs it (which honestly would hardly be his fault) you might get backlash against his colour - that is sad and stupid and prob. would happen. bugger

He seems to be a sincere fellow. I hope he is not a showpony. I don’t think he is just a showpony I think he realises that talk of hope and change is needed to win the election, and tough action (that people would never vote for) is needed to fix things. People don’t want to hear that the boom times they are used to were a complete fantasy, living off credit that has to be repaid, and will never come again. Never. That they borrowed from their children and grandchildren to party it up. Nobody would vote for someone who said that. Nobody wants the truth, they want more fantasy.

[jp_dubya]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
That’s true, love or hate Obama I think most can agree we’re glad to see Bush go.[/quote]

I am hoping for change. Bush is gone, and next is the ruling party in congress. they need to go.

I’m quite out of touch. What is the makeup of the congress now?