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Based on that, I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s fear mongering on the right. It’s the stated goal of the left.

Two Democrats recently won the race for governor in red states (KY and LA) and neither of them ran on that agenda.

Despite the breathless fearmongering from “conservative” media, gun confiscation has about the same chance of becoming a reality as Mexico paying for the wall.

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Fixed that for you, @doogie.

If I see it all showing up on the Democratic Platform; I will order a “MAGA” Hat and some Stormy Daniels videos.

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In the mirror.

New York did make “high capacity” magazines illegal with no grandfather clause making it a felony to own one over night. You bringing up Trump was a non sequitur considering he didn’t pass that law and was not a politician at the time.

All these people saying "guns will never be confiscated “single payer won’t happen”, “there won’t be a wealth tax” etc… are the same people who were saying “no way Trump wins”.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Warren is ahead of Biden is several polls. Buttigieg is leading in Iowa. Bernie is even leading in one. Who’s going to stop their agenda in a clean sweep of Congress and the WH? Pelosi? The Skwad? Ginsburg?

You’re the same guy who said Trump wouldn’t win right? Just like the establishment people who said Brexit wouldn’t happen.

The Europeans tried wealth taxes, rationed healthcare, disarmament, and mass third world uncontrolled immigration. We’re told that they’re morally superior to us and we should follow their lead. Why is it hard to believe it will happen here?

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You have got the wrong guy…

So no.

(P.S. I know some of you guys are damn good at looking up peoples post from 15 years ago. So if I DID say it…1) I forgot that I did, and 2) I’m in good company with millions of Americans…including Trump).

Exactly. Dem does not necessarily mean The Left.

No. You claim gun control is a Democrat thing. You claimed the Dems, which means all of them, are running on a platform that includes forced buy backs.

I pointed out that Republicans also have been behind gun control. Under Giuliani NYC even sued manufacturers. Reagan was all for restrictions on so called assault weapons. And Trump has not spoken out against Giuliani or Reagan.

I also pointed out that you were wrong about all the Dem candidates running on forced buy backs. You either made it up or you need to find better sources for facts.

What about all the people who said we would have a wall, better govt healthcare than Obamacare, and a drained swamp?

You need to stop looking at everything how Fox news tells you.

Longer vacations, longer maternity leave, better food, fewer fat people, no Kardashians, less violence, more time with family/less time at work, better public education, free college… Why is it so hard to believe it will happen here?

They are all (with the exception of ‘Russian Asset’ Gabbard) in favor of banning semi automatic assault weapons from like in 1994. Some without grandfather clauses (necessitating a buyback).

Booker is the furthest in the anti column with mandated federal firearms owners card among other things. Sanders and Gabbard are slightly more reluctant.

All those things are possible when free people interact. Want more vacation? Negotiate for it. Want to work less hours? Negotiate for it. Want free college? MIT publishes courses for free. Want to be less fat? Eat less food.

If you want the European model, then you want to compel employers and tax payers to work more hours to pay for these things.

Passing these things via govt IS negotiating for it (or rather, using the nuclear option because actually negotiating those things en masse is a GOP fueled joke of a dream).

Using the levers programmed into society to exert public will.

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What a terrifying phrase.

Hello fearless leader. I’d be happy to pay 60% taxes so my neighbor can be a sloth. Just don’t shoot me.

Individuals can’t negotiate with each other? It has to be collective?

It’s both in the real world, they aren’t mutually exclusive.

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Don’t worry. It led to the greatest societies in history.

Technically? Yes. In the real world, en masse? There aren’t any examples in human history that I’m aware of.

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Not using your vacation days for childbirth? Oh the horror.

Sweden and Norway are 10th and 11th in the world in the number of firearms per capita. France is in 12th place.

Interestingly, percentage of households owning guns is not that far off in Europe compared to the US, it’s that Americans have an absurdly high number of guns per household due to them being a fun hobby that makes one fell morally superior.

There are more Jehova’s Witnesses in Poland than there are Muslims, for example.

Also, there are 50 sovereign states in Europe totalling over 500 million people. If you’re a Breitbart op-ed writer, you can massage misleading statistics for a specific country/region that justify one’s idiotic blanket assumptions about defenseless overtaxed Euro pinkos who are subject to government-mandated forced euthanasia or whatever is the danger du jour in right wing circles.

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Yes. The libertarian nightmare has produced the most prosperous nation in history.

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That’s where you’re wrong. When you try to solve a problem between two individuals by passing a law to mandate their behaviour, neither can negotiate as individuals. You’ve removed agency from the picture.

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No, you missed the point. some things are negotiated through public policy in the collective, and some things are left to the individual. We use both depending on what is being negotiated.