Oh,my God…I was hoping the decade would start of a little more positive…
It looks like Trey “Mr. Benghazi” Gowdy is now on the Trump Legal Team.
I was hoping that we were done with his grandstanding and histrionics…
Between Gowdy, Nunes and Jim Jordan…it already looks like the bullshit will be stacked at least chest high…
UPDATE
It looks like Gowdy with NOT be joining Trump’s Legal Team.
(Whew!)
What was he gonna do? Call it a witch Hunt?
I am wondering if this thread really is defacto dead.
Presumably the Republicans will shoot the whole thing down.
The articles have been sent, now I wonder if any more witnesses will actually be involved, Bolton perhaps?
Nah nobody will be called forward. The GOP was pretty straightforward that they have no intentions of looking into anything.
Amusing how Lev Parnas is making the media rounds after getting tired of all the “lies” that the Admin + conservative media engine have made routine; relatedly, I imagine he’ll be labeled just another ‘Never Trumper’ any hour now.
FAR less amusing is how his motivation may not simply be self-interest… but also self-preservation instinct.
Seems super sketchy to be doing what they’re doing. Signifies blatant corruption, blatant, numerous constitutional violations will occur during this trial… I believe America’s forefathers would be rolling over in their graves if they were forced to witness what’s going on today
In my opinion… it’s making republicans look bad, yet these fragrant violations of constitutional policy probably don’t align with the beliefs and values of most good hearted republicans (im not a republican, pretty far left)… but I don’t believe this trial will be represented in a way that aligns with public opinion (polling indicates more Americans want trump out of office compared to those who don’t)
Haha this is just another day for the GOP senate. The most consistent thing about Mitch is his adamament refusal to do his job.
Unreal in the PWI forum. Welcome brother!..
Mitch will continue to do the most obviously self serving things possible, until he is not in the senate anymore (which will probably be when he dies, as he represents Kentucky).
Do you believe that House Dems have done their job and fairly, or are you just talking smack?
What the House Dems do / have done is not relevant to Senate doing it’s job. I don’t see where this logic comes from. It would be like a murder suspect saying well OJ wasn’t convicted, therefore I should be free to go.
In general? Sure. They continue to vote on bills from what I can see.
Edit: fwiw I don’t have a problem with most of the GOP in Congress. A number have gone on record that they’d love to be allowed to do their job, but alas that’s Mitch’s decision
Do you have examples of House Dems refusing to vote on bills (what they’re paid to do?)
It’s just standard whataboutism. It’s not like there will ever be an ACTUAL defense to “this guy in Congress refuses to let people vote on laws”
I do believe the democrats have done a fair and just job. The impeachment hearings could have been delayed slightly (the house trial), as far more evidence exists now comparative to when the trial took place. That being said, if you take a look at the transcripts, the behaviour of the trump administration (trying to block witnesses etc), trumps tweets (the day before and during impeachment marketed the two tweetiest days of his presidency)… The revelations of spying… the evidence against trump (in general) is very strong in this particular case, it’s obvious he’s guilty. The question beckons however “was this an impeachable offence?”
I’d stipulate that yes… yes it is, withholding military aid from a country which requires said aid on the pretence of “you didn’t investigate my political rivals son, I wanted this looked into so I could dig up dirt on this guy/ potentially alter the results of the next federal election” is blatantly unethical and unconstitutional. Furthermore there have been many, MANY outbursts/comments stemming from Donald Trump (No, I’m not sensitive/a particularly politically correct individual) that have been incredibly unprofessional/unacceptable… Mocking Greta Thunberg comes to mind… are you fucking kidding me, she’s like fifteen… grow up man
In my opinion this particular president is a narcissistic (potentially sociopathic) pathological liar… while he may have excellent tactics in regards to conducting business, he isn’t fit to be running America. I may like some of the things he’s done (being of Jewish heritage, I was happy when the embassy was moved to Jerusalem etc), however I still dislike him vehermontly… Being pro-israel isn’t enough for me to vote for/like a candidate. It appears many who support Trump either don’t want to and/or outright refuse to look at/believe ANY prior claims made of him hinting corruption/unethical behaviour, and there are probably (literally) HUNDREDS… how can one just say “no, ALL these claims are fake news, it’s a witch-hunt”… We didn’t support Nixon when the notion of the Watergate scandal came out, so why do we continually and unwaveringly support this guy.
Mitch Mcconnell does this, however only in relation to barring the progression of any bill pertaining to cannabis reform. I don’t understand this however as the prospect of legal cannabis in theory could lend him a lot of cash… He’s a corrupt dinosaur and I want him out the senate so society can adequately reform bullshit ideology (he has a few contenders giving him a run for his money if I recall correctly)
I was referring to the impeachment inquiry, rather than in general. But no to your question.
Imo, it was too rushed and the notion of strictly controlling it by Schiff and co, gave it an appearance of partisanship that crossed the line for the independents in the general public.
You know what’s also UNCONSTITUTIONALLY being rushed… the senate trial
I think the GOP was present every step of the way. What exactly wasn’t fair?
Witnesses were coming out left and right. All of which looked really damning. A lifetime conman doesn’t inspire the same level of faith in everyone, so for a lot of people’s Trump’s “I didn’t do it” wasn’t super convincing.
I think it would have been considerably less rushed had Trump let the inner circle testify. The ones that would exonerate him.
What do you think the lack of people saying they are going to participate gives the appearance of?
“Too rushed” is the general talking point of the right from what I’ve read.
Let’s do this thing because it’s a bunch of bullshit and we want to cooperate to show the American people that it isn’t is not a talking point. If everything is no evidence and a witch hunt I would think that would be an easy win.
Lev Parnas picture gallery with literally every Trumpkin you can think of.
It was my understanding that the house Republicans weren’t allowed in the SCIF room while the witnesses were being interviewed by Schiff and company. Was that not the case?