The Impeachment Hearings

Proved your own point about false bravado there :wink:

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Not to that extent but c’mon man… You’re not dumb or dense. Google or YouTube leftist violence and you’ll find a shit ton of em’.

It’s not conservative types swinging bike locks, attacking businesses, interrupting diners (Kirk and Owens among others) setting fires, shutting down speeches, etc…tweeting shit about killing all white men,

Um… I don’t threaten people. I don’t own an AR either.

It’s the right / left framed in a context of going to “civil war.”

Agreed there. We’re splitting hairs here now.

I’m no fan of either but I know it’s waaaaay more complicated than it seems on the surface.

I think the reality is people just bite their tongues around folks on the other side and then retreat to their echo chamber of choice to have their beliefs affirmed later.

I guess I’ll believe this when I see it. I mean, there are scuffles at rallies/protests, but we’re talking the far fringes of either side.

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Yeah, just a joke.

I do agree with your point about social media exacerbating the problem. The other problem is cable news. If we all got our news from the wire services - Reuters, Associated Press, etc. - we’d all be better served.

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I work on a college campus. I sometimes wear a hat with an American flag on it. I sometimes wear my John Wayne t-shirt, which also has a flag on it. No one has attacked me. I talk to supposedly leftist professors who tell me they find all of these pronouns they are asked to use, ridiculous.

People are judging millions of Americans from Youtube videos. They are judging an entire profession, professors, by the actions and words of a minority. Don’t cops complain about how they are judged by the actions of a few idiots? How many Youtube videos show cops being dicks or breaking the law? Measure that against how many actual cops there are and take into consideration how many interactions between citizens and police occur everyday.

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Ha… Good. I certainly don’t want to see any violence on our soil between Americans.

For sure. News outlets are just scum anymore. Too bad they only exist because “we” feed the shit show by tuning in

I am even more convinced now that Trump will sleaze his way out of this one (as he has often done in his Life). The “Counter-Campaign” (IMO); both by the GOP and Conservatives; is proving to be almost “Putin-esque” in it’s ferocity, focus and consistency.

Another disappointing person to me has been AG Barr.

He always has appeared to be a “straight-shooter”, who now has just become a shill for Trump. He lately has looked and sounded like a man who is saying “F*ck it…let me get through this and give me my benefits…”

Even Jeff Sessions had a moment of doing the right thing…even though it cost him his job and has incurred the Eternal Wrath of Trump.

What these idiots don’t realize is that it won’t be a two sided war; there will be at least three. You will have those willing to fight on the left and the right, and those from either side, or no side, who don’t want to fight anyone, and they will have the police and military, i.e., the government on their side.

Im glad for that. Really. But I also know your personal experiences don’t lend credibility or relevance to those of many many others that have experienced the opposite. Just like someone having a favorable interaction with police doesn’t dismiss someone having an unfavourable one with a legit asshole officer.

Yes cops rightfully complain about being smeared by people for the actions of an asshole. Like ANYBODY else would. Doesn’t really lend your point credibility though. Your experiences are your own. Just like mine are my own.

I had a good college experience as far as professors are concerned. One was even the father of my company commander in Iraq. The students were mostly dumb and caricatures of Revenge of the Nerds types

Have you been attacked by Antifa? People here keep bringing them up and refer to videos but I haven’t seen one person actually say they have personal experience with dealing with Antifa.

So my point is why should I let Youtube form my world view instead of my own experience? I’m not saying Antifa isn’t real but that it seems to be something that is happening in one or two places but Youtube and sources like Breitbart want it to seem like it’s everywhere and running the left and/or democratic party.

If you (or someone) could explain the deference US Presidents (especially the Republican ones) show the Saudis, I’d really appreciate it. I’m honestly at a loss.

I get your point. I agree to an extent. But would you say the same about this “white supremacy” boogeyman too ?

No it’s not. They’re behind ISIS and provided (at the very least) logistical support for 9/11. They’ve also lavishly funded thousands upon thousands of salafi madrasas worldwide that churn out wannabe terrorists to this day. How many terrorists were radicalized in Saudi Arabia or Saudi-funded mosques?

They are the global sponsor of sunni islamic terrorism.

Money. Oil money, to be precise. Add to that a bizarre propensity for red state Republicans (especially Texans working in oil&gas industry) to fall under the spell of the Saudis and you’ve got yourself a toxic combination.

I believe that MBS is throwing some serious money at Trump and Javanka after realizing that his Presidency is purely transactional.

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You are talking group violence currently in the street. Akin to sports or bar violence. Most people past 25 eschew these events.

Im talking hatred on a personal level,2 that has the potential to develop into secterian violence. Due to considering the other side as an axistential threat.

Do you think the West is sohow immune to such thinking? I don’t personally. And l believe you can push one too far.

Yes. It exists but they are not numerous.

I think when the media, left and right, give these groups coverage that exaggerates their size and influence, they give them a larger platform to spread their crap than they would otherwise have. They allow them to influence the tone of political discourse. There are legitimate reasons for someone not voting Democrat but Antifa and commie professors shouldn’t be among them.

Let the tribalists fight while the sane among us watch the military wipe out both sides. It would be a good way to reset things.

100%

Yea not complex at all… Having served in that part of the world, serving alongside some of them, knowing the nature of war/military industry/intelligence analysis… I might have some constitution on the subject. Politics and strange bed fellows or something.