[quote]nighthawkz wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:Interesting. You are not the first person on here that has announced this.
I think most of the guys here and else where just can not comprehend the decision to stop eating beef, chicken, pork and fish. I understand a religious decision.
But what socially makes a person stop eating meat?
Serious question.
If somebody cant stay civil about this discussion then just ignore them, I am genuinely curious. [/quote]
I need to go into detail here…
Me and my family have never been massive meat eaters. I became a veggie for the first time when I was fifteen because the idea of eating dead bodies grossed me out. Stuck with it for 5-6 years, then became an omni for six years, then a pescetarian for two, then cut out fish and the occasional organic chicken last summer.
I’ll be honest and say that I’d be squeamish to kill, say, a pig myself so I can have a BBQ, but the actual reason is animal treatment in the food industry. If someone chooses to eat organic, grass-fed meat that was butchered under stress-free conditions - hey, I have zero problems with that. Even if they eat ‘mystery meat’ in reasonable quantities, I’m ok. If I had to live with someone who eats several steaks a day - well, I’d still shut up but I wouldn’t love it.
I’m mostly pissd off by the ‘general public’ sitting around eating piles of hot dogs. They don’t need all the protein and while it may sound good from a macho mindset, the fact that a living creature had to bleed out and die so they can get fatter doesn’t sit well with me. On the other hand, I’m also put off by lifters who eat several pounds of dad animals a day to get bigger and satisfy their ego when there is NO research to support a need for these quantities in a natural lifter. Which brings me to the next question…
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote: Can you still make the same gains without meat? I’m talking competitive bodybuilder gains, not just for general fitness. It seems very difficult to get in enough complete protein day in and day out without sources of food that are almost entirely protein (chicken, lean beef, fish). I know a few bodybuilders that are vegetarian, but they are few and far between and not extremely competitive versus others.
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Our very own Chris Collucci wrote a blog post on this back in the day:
chriscolucci.blogspot.de/2009/04/life-without-my-meat-part-2.html
Now, concerning myself, things are a bit different.
I’m the worst ecto you’ve ever seen. Many guys on here will post something like ‘I started lifting at seventeen, I was only 165 pounds and sooo skinny’. To be frank, fuck them. I celebrated my 25th birthday at 5’11 weighing just shy of 130. Pre-lifting, mind you. When I first started lifting, I still ate meat and was happy to get up to 147 lbs within a few months.
So it’s a rocky road anyway; cutting out meat and fish doesn’t seem to have made it rockier. I guess I’m not exactly Mr Olympia material, which is fine; my novice dream was to make it to 155 (hah!). Eventually I’ll be happy to end up at a very lean 170-175 which would make me one of the biggest fuckers in my extended family.
that being said, getting insane amounts of protein is tricky. But I still manage to get 0.8-1g/lbs each day, about two third of that coming from animal protein; the rest is close to complete since I know my shit about combining foods. Calories, carbs in particular, seem to do the trick whenever I find the time to eat enough of them (i.e. not right now, unfortunately).
Anyway, thanks for the polite questions. I expected worse reactions which is why I kept it a secret so far 
Now if you’ll excuse me, dinner is waiting for me - five scrambled eggs, a few cups of green peas and a pound of potatoes.
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Hey man its your life, you have to look in the mirror and be happy with what you see. You have never came off as an asshole so no reason any of us should either.
As someone who has spent 21 years in the medical field all I will say is that everyone is different, period. If someone is making gains and happy with their life and healthy with their diet then keep at it.
