The Classical Music Thread

Wow 3.5 years ago?

Wife showed me this a couple of days ago. Thought of this thread.

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Yeah that kid’s the next Ling Ling

Ling Ling the panda?
That’s it - l’m selling my guitars

lol … yes Ling Ling the panda … my mistake it was Lang Lang and his Bach Goldberg Variations is exquisite

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Ironically, I’ve been listening to lots of Liszt while working after our conversation in the metal thread lol. Hamelin is pretty badass.

For anyone interested, this is a variation of Nicolo Paganini’s 24th Caprice IIRC. Dude had lots of Caprices. He was mainly a violinist.

Seen quite a few of these prodigies IRL and what really blows me away is when they play Bach both seamlessly and effortlessly.

Couldn’t find be bothered to look for prodigies on youtube, but this is the kind of stuff from Bach I’m talking about:

It takes so much technique, left/right hand control and musical ā€œmaturityā€ to pull off a piece like this and I’ve seen a fucking 5 year old do it lol. God isn’t fair sometimes.

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Here is a little treat for you to remember your exercises in finger dexterity, that you mentioned in some other thread. Pianist has an interesting note pinned at top. Personally l appreciate the technical display, but favor the emotion of melody more.

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I’m very partial to Shostakovich

I saw that piece posted and immediately thought of you

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The dude didn’t include anything by Cziffra?

This reaches the level of absurdity with regards to technical skill lol:

Same. The execution too. There was a piano contest for kids several years ago. While prodigies were choosing pieces from Chopin and Rachmaninov, my friend told his student to play the first movement of this Mozart piece instead:

EDIT:

Posted wrong piece:

He won because my friend coached him on focusing on the execution of the piece despite it’s relative simplicity. While all the other kids were pretty amazing, they were clearly struggling with, and weren’t playing their chosen pieces with the required emotion and other stuff that I don’t know crap about since I don’t have much formal education in the piano.

Notice the very obvious influence this piece had on the 3rd movement of Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata?

Even with technically complex pieces, you can clearly hear the distinction in execution between the dude in the other video and a world class pianist like Li Yundi even though they’re playing the exact same notes:

I didn’t really do much of them tbh. I basically gave my friend/teacher a KPI: Ensure that I learn the 3rd movement of Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata in the fastest time possible through any means necessary lol. That’s all I wanted at the time.

I’m so uneducated in music I can’t even read scores for the guitar so I don’t even know what notes I’m playing other than chords and scales, the latter being memorization of patterns. This is because I started playing the guitar long before I had any form of education in music theory.

I really want to pick up more theory so I can do some jazz improvisation on the guitar but I keep putting it off because I’m too lazy lol.

This guy is a teacher, studio musician, and excellent resource.
Was listening to his ā€œWhy Bach is great.ā€ & jumped onto this.
Far better than watching the news during breakfast :grinning:

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I love Rick Beato - he consistently puts out very quality content.

I also love Become the Knight / Mike the Music Snob

He stated the fact that adults can’t develop perfect pitch and it infuriated people?

LOL.

LMAO.

LMFAO.

I didn’t watch the whole video because I think I know what he’s going to be talking about.

I know 2 people with perfect pitch IRL and they’re both ex-concert pianists. Only 2 out of over a dozen concert/ex-concert pianists I’ve met in the last decade from all over the world because I have a side business that requires me to interact with this kind of musicians sometimes.

I’ve heard so many horror stories of the kind of hours they put into practice and the strictness of the teachers in conservatories and if these people couldn’t develop perfect pitch, I seriously doubt even a teenager can, let alone an adult doing a silly paid course.

Regarding perfect pitch, lots of guys with diplomas, whom are nowhere near the standard of a conservatory graduate, keep telling me the movie Amadeus was rubbish because of the scene of Mozart writing his songs on the billiard table and not sitting at the piano.

They say it’s impossible because they don’t understand what it’s like to have it. I think it’s the same with people who think they can learn it. They simply don’t know what it’s like to be born with it.

One of guys with perfect pitch is a close friend of mine and he’s like ā€œfuck them. I do that all the time but not on a billiard tableā€ lol.

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I’m not talking about good relative pitch. You’re also either born with it but it CAN be developed, but it takes YEARS. How good one can get will depend on the individual since there’s obviously a biological or genetic or whatever I don’t know know kind of ceiling for different people.

You should watch the whole video.
He builds on a thesis of infants learning perfect pitch in the same manner that they learn language. His son appears to have it and gives a good display.

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I think he makes a lot of sense when he talks about languages like Mandarin which are very reliant on the use of different tones. I know Westerners living in China who can speak Mandarin much better than me but they just can’t get the intonation of the words right even after speaking the language everyday for several years. It’s always slightly off. Just that little bit.

I don’t know if you can apply this to developing perfect pitch. Seems like kind of a bit of a stretch to me but it’s probably worth a try for people who want their kids to become musicians lol.

The performance of his Symphony #7 in Leningrad, during the middle of the siege, would’ve been something to behold.

From ā€œAbsolute Warā€ by Chris Bellamy:

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One of the guys from TwoSet has perfect pitch and reminds the audience any chance he gets…

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I’ve read similar stories. It’s absolutely astounding and I’d imagine quite demoralizing for the Germans

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My friend would troll one aspiring concert pianist in her 20s who had a serious attitude problem and delusions of grandeur almost exactly like this. This was after he tried to tell her to stop wasting her precious time pursuing this dream because she just didn’t have the level of ā€œGod givenā€ talent to make it but she wouldn’t listen. A 5 year old prodigy could outplay her.

Shit like this is unfair. It’s pretty much like perfect pitch - either you have it or you don’t - and these top level guys can tell. My friend once went and took the A,B,R,S,M grade 8 practical exam for shits and giggles without any preparation, sight read the pieces he had never played before and played them right there, and got a merit or distinction(can’t remember). It’s not the kind of thing in which working harder than everyone will get you there.

(But, of course, when you’re competing with other top level guys, you really need to work even harder than the average person, so I’m not saying they acquired these skills without any prior effort. My friend used to tell me absurd stuff like how he used to practice just scales for up to 12 hours a day while he was in the conservatory.)

I’ve watched a couple of their videos because somehow the YouTube algorithm thinks I want to and I didn’t like the fact that they dissed Jay Chou, only the the greatest singer/composer of commercial Chinese music in the last 2 decades, so I’m boycotting them. Even Marty Friedman keeps saying he loves Jay Chou. So screw them.

It’s a fucking movie made for the average audience who don’t know all the nuances in classical music ffs lol. Mma guys don’t whine about the overly elaborate and unnecessary moves in John Wick movies, let alone the impossible ones.

Nah, I don’t care. The movie sucked balls anyway.

My friend with perfect pitch also has a serious problem with Jay Chou but my other friend loves him because she’s female lol. He’s not stopped complaining about him since 2007. I think it’s just the way he markets himself.

Seriously, they’re pretty good(the twosetviolin guys) and their level of playing and musicianship is seriously badass but their videos are just not the kind of stuff I like to watch.