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[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
There is a lot going on here with these questions. I think some assumptions are being made here. First and foremost, we need to go back and prove all these things that we are using as “assumed facts”. Things such as hell fire, purgatory, trinity, etc.

I will share my personal beliefs with you on these topics:

I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell.

I do not believe in purgatory.

I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus was God’s only begotten Son, meaning the only creation that He created personally.

I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.

The translation that I use is THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

http://www.conservapedia.com/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures[/quote]

Wow! I disagree with a lot of this.
The trinity is scripture based. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father…I am in Him and he is in me” same with the Holy Spirit.

The soul and the body are two different things. This is spelled out all over scripture.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
There is a lot going on here with these questions. I think some assumptions are being made here. First and foremost, we need to go back and prove all these things that we are using as “assumed facts”. Things such as hell fire, purgatory, trinity, etc.

I will share my personal beliefs with you on these topics:

I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell.

I do not believe in purgatory.

I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus was God’s only begotten Son, meaning the only creation that He created personally.

I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.

The translation that I use is THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

http://www.conservapedia.com/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures[/quote]

Wow! I disagree with a lot of this.
The trinity is scripture based. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father…I am in Him and he is in me” same with the Holy Spirit.

The soul and the body are two different things. This is spelled out all over scripture.[/quote]

How is it that no man has seen God?

As far as where the soul is seperate from the body, please show me.

The trinity scriptures, could you please share some of them with me so i can read the context?

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:
I would like to challenge and encourage you to continue your search for the truth. You are at least trying and that is to be commended. I struggle with what you have stated all the time. God being all powerful and knowing what you are going to do just makes him want what is best for you more. He loves you. Keep searching for the truth and you will find it. I will be praying for you ckallander.[/quote]

Thanks buddy, I appreciate your comments and prayers. Also, thanks for anyone here who took time to respond in such a thoughtful manner that my original post did not deserve. I wish all Christians I ran into were as compassionate as you all.

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[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
There is a lot going on here with these questions. I think some assumptions are being made here. First and foremost, we need to go back and prove all these things that we are using as “assumed facts”. Things such as hell fire, purgatory, trinity, etc.

I will share my personal beliefs with you on these topics:

I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell.

I do not believe in purgatory.

I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus was God’s only begotten Son, meaning the only creation that He created personally.

I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.

The translation that I use is THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

http://www.conservapedia.com/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures[/quote]

Wow! I disagree with a lot of this.
The trinity is scripture based. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father…I am in Him and he is in me” same with the Holy Spirit.

The soul and the body are two different things. This is spelled out all over scripture.[/quote]

How is it that no man has seen God?

As far as where the soul is seperate from the body, please show me.

The trinity scriptures, could you please share some of them with me so i can read the context?[/quote]

Of the Holy Spirit:
John 16:13-15
But when He comes, the Spirit of truth, He will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.

Jn 15:26
When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me.

Of the soul:
John 19:30
When Jesus had taken the wine, he said, “It is finished.” And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit.

Can't hand over a spirit if it is inseparable from a body.


On seeing God:
Jn 14:7-9
If you know me, then you will also know my Father. From now on you do know him and have seen him." Philip said to him, "Master, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us."Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you for so long a time and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

That’s all I have time for right now, but all this came from just John…

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[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
There is a lot going on here with these questions. I think some assumptions are being made here. First and foremost, we need to go back and prove all these things that we are using as “assumed facts”. Things such as hell fire, purgatory, trinity, etc.

I will share my personal beliefs with you on these topics:

I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell.

I do not believe in purgatory.

I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus was God’s only begotten Son, meaning the only creation that He created personally.

I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.

The translation that I use is THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

http://www.conservapedia.com/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures[/quote]

Wow! I disagree with a lot of this.
The trinity is scripture based. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father…I am in Him and he is in me” same with the Holy Spirit.

The soul and the body are two different things. This is spelled out all over scripture.[/quote]

How is it that no man has seen God?

As far as where the soul is seperate from the body, please show me.

The trinity scriptures, could you please share some of them with me so i can read the context?[/quote]

You are saying Jesus was invisible?

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I read the bible just for fun yesterday for the first time in my life.

It’s not that boring but LOL.

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[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
There is a lot going on here with these questions. I think some assumptions are being made here. First and foremost, we need to go back and prove all these things that we are using as “assumed facts”. Things such as hell fire, purgatory, trinity, etc.

I will share my personal beliefs with you on these topics:

I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell.

I do not believe in purgatory.

I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus was God’s only begotten Son, meaning the only creation that He created personally.

I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.

The translation that I use is THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

http://www.conservapedia.com/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures[/quote]

Wow! I disagree with a lot of this.
The trinity is scripture based. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father…I am in Him and he is in me” same with the Holy Spirit.

The soul and the body are two different things. This is spelled out all over scripture.[/quote]

How is it that no man has seen God?

As far as where the soul is seperate from the body, please show me.

The trinity scriptures, could you please share some of them with me so i can read the context?[/quote]
(I am no going to jump into the debate)

Are you a Jehovah’s witness?

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[quote]pat wrote:

Of the Holy Spirit:
John 16:13-15
But when He comes, the Spirit of truth, He will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.

Jn 15:26
When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me.

[/quote]

I can see how you would think that, and I appreciate the scriptural references. However, my view, and I know not everyone is going to agree with me on it obviously, is that the Holy Spirit is personified. It is done many times in the Bible. Wisdom, death, and sin are some other things that were personified.

We personify things today on a regular basis.

Also, I reason, that, just as Jesus, and God (incidently, who’s name is Jehovah, or Yahweh) are talked about and given positions and personalities, I would expect the same from the Holy spirit; or at least a name.

(not a flawless argument, i am well aware)

I see this as just his spirit or his energy.

My reason is based partially on this scripture, and similar ones.

Gen 3:17

And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and took to eating from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18Â And thorns and thistles it will grow for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19Â In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”

On seeing God:
Jn 14:7-9
If you know me, then you will also know my Father. From now on you do know him and have seen him." Philip said to him, "Master, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us."Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you for so long a time and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?


That's all I have time for right now, but all this came from just John....

[/quote]


John 1:18

18Â No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.

How can Jesus be God and still no man has seen God?


I realize that I have not offered irrefutable evidence.  I just offer additional reasoning points based on what I have understood through my studies of the Bible as a whole.
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[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I read the bible just for fun yesterday for the first time in my life.

It’s not that boring but LOL. [/quote]

That is pretty funny. Glad you picked it up. The hard part is getting through the names and laws of Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers. I have been a Christian for almost 25 years and I have only been able to read straight through the Bible twice. A lot of knowledge in that book.

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I have a question if one of you who know more about this I can answer. When Jesus was being crucified on the cross, didn’t he forgive those who were crucifying him? Even though they denied that he was God’s son, the Lord Christ? If Jesus forgave them without them knowing him for they denied who he was, did they go to heaven? Sorry if these are stupid questions. I am Christian, but I’m not very familiar with the scriptures and therefore have many questions. Most of which the people I ask cannot answer.

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[quote]Jason Lee wrote:
I have a question if one of you who know more about this I can answer. When Jesus was being crucified on the cross, didn’t he forgive those who were crucifying him? Even though they denied that he was God’s son, the Lord Christ? If Jesus forgave them without them knowing him for they denied who he was, did they go to heaven? Sorry if these are stupid questions. I am Christian, but I’m not very familiar with the scriptures and therefore have many questions. Most of which the people I ask cannot answer. [/quote]

Hebrews 10:26

“For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left.”

Do you know exactly what scripture you are referring to so that I can read the context? Generally speaking, the above scripture helps us to appreciate that if we know something is wrong, but continue to do it, then we won’t be forgiven. However, I don’t want to apply it to your question, without having the scripture and surrounding text as insight.

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[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]Jason Lee wrote:
I have a question if one of you who know more about this I can answer. When Jesus was being crucified on the cross, didn’t he forgive those who were crucifying him? Even though they denied that he was God’s son, the Lord Christ? If Jesus forgave them without them knowing him for they denied who he was, did they go to heaven? Sorry if these are stupid questions. I am Christian, but I’m not very familiar with the scriptures and therefore have many questions. Most of which the people I ask cannot answer. [/quote]

Hebrews 10:26

“For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left.”

Do you know exactly what scripture you are referring to so that I can read the context? Generally speaking, the above scripture helps us to appreciate that if we know something is wrong, but continue to do it, then we won’t be forgiven. However, I don’t want to apply it to your question, without having the scripture and surrounding text as insight.

[/quote]

Sorry, I don’t have the scripture off the top of my head, but I thought it went along with “Forgive them father for they know not what they do”

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[quote]Jason Lee wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:

[quote]Jason Lee wrote:
I have a question if one of you who know more about this I can answer. When Jesus was being crucified on the cross, didn’t he forgive those who were crucifying him? Even though they denied that he was God’s son, the Lord Christ? If Jesus forgave them without them knowing him for they denied who he was, did they go to heaven? Sorry if these are stupid questions. I am Christian, but I’m not very familiar with the scriptures and therefore have many questions. Most of which the people I ask cannot answer. [/quote]

Hebrews 10:26

“For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left.”

Do you know exactly what scripture you are referring to so that I can read the context? Generally speaking, the above scripture helps us to appreciate that if we know something is wrong, but continue to do it, then we won’t be forgiven. However, I don’t want to apply it to your question, without having the scripture and surrounding text as insight.

[/quote]

Sorry, I don’t have the scripture off the top of my head, but I thought it went along with “Forgive them father for they know not what they do” [/quote]

Well, to go off just that, I would have to say it would fall under them not knowing the accurate knowledge of what they were doing. Jesus has the ability to read hearts, as does God, so he would know if they were truly acting out of ignorance or not.

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Stated,

“I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell…I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.”

The Bible reveals that human personhood, made in the image of God, is a triunity involving the components of spirit, soul, and body (I Thes. 5:23).

God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground (body) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and he became “a living soul” (Gen. 2:7). God intended that by eating of the tree of life and by obeying His command not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, humankind would never die but would live forever (Gen. 3:P22). Only after death entered the world as a result of human sin do we read about the separation of a person into the dust of the earth and the spirit, which returns to God (Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7). In other words, the separation of the body from the spirit and soul is the results of God’s curse on the human race because of sin and will eventually be remedied only at the resurrection of the body on the last day. The resurrection of the body is an important and essential doctrine in the Scriptures. It refers to God’s raising of a body from the dead and reuniting it with the person’s soul and spirit, from which it was separated (I Cor. 15:51-53).

The soul (Heb. nephesh; Gk. psyche) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial aspects of mind, emotions, senses, and will in human personhood that result from the union of spirit and body. The soul along with the human spirit will continue to live when an individual physically dies. The soul is so closely linked with one’s inner personhood that it is sometimes used as a synonym for “person” (Acts 7:20). The body (Heb. basar; Gk. soma) may be briefly defined as that material element in an individual that returns to the dust when he or she dies (sometimes also called “flesh”). The spirit (Heb. ruach; Gk. pneuma) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial life component of the human being, wherein resides our spiritual capacity and conscience; that aspect is the one whereby we are most in contact with God’s Spirit.

Of the three components that constitute the “whole” of human personhood, only the spirit and soul are indestructible and survive death, either to live in heaven (Rev. 20:4) or in hell (Lk. 16:22-23). However, the Bible is insistent that as long as we are alive, believers must take good care of their bodies by keeping them free from immorality and evil (I Cor. 6: 13-20) and by dedicating them to the service of God (Rom. 12:1-2).

MARANATHA

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[quote]Jason Lee wrote:
I have a question if one of you who know more about this I can answer. When Jesus was being crucified on the cross, didn’t he forgive those who were crucifying him? Even though they denied that he was God’s son, the Lord Christ? If Jesus forgave them without them knowing him for they denied who he was, did they go to heaven? Sorry if these are stupid questions. I am Christian, but I’m not very familiar with the scriptures and therefore have many questions. Most of which the people I ask cannot answer. [/quote]

Even if they were forgiven by Jesus, it does not mean they went to Heaven unless the followed what the Apostles said.

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[quote]blacksheep wrote:
Stated,

“I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell…I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.”

The Bible reveals that human personhood, made in the image of God, is a triunity involving the components of spirit, soul, and body (I Thes. 5:23).

God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground (body) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and he became “a living soul” (Gen. 2:7). God intended that by eating of the tree of life and by obeying His command not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, humankind would never die but would live forever (Gen. 3:P22). Only after death entered the world as a result of human sin do we read about the separation of a person into the dust of the earth and the spirit, which returns to God (Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7). In other words, the separation of the body from the spirit and soul is the results of God’s curse on the human race because of sin and will eventually be remedied only at the resurrection of the body on the last day. The resurrection of the body is an important and essential doctrine in the Scriptures. It refers to God’s raising of a body from the dead and reuniting it with the person’s soul and spirit, from which it was separated (I Cor. 15:51-53).

The soul (Heb. nephesh; Gk. psyche) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial aspects of mind, emotions, senses, and will in human personhood that result from the union of spirit and body. The soul along with the human spirit will continue to live when an individual physically dies. The soul is so closely linked with one’s inner personhood that it is sometimes used as a synonym for “person” (Acts 7:20). The body (Heb. basar; Gk. soma) may be briefly defined as that material element in an individual that returns to the dust when he or she dies (sometimes also called “flesh”). The spirit (Heb. ruach; Gk. pneuma) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial life component of the human being, wherein resides our spiritual capacity and conscience; that aspect is the one whereby we are most in contact with God’s Spirit.

Of the three components that constitute the “whole” of human personhood, only the spirit and soul are indestructible and survive death, either to live in heaven (Rev. 20:4) or in hell (Lk. 16:22-23). However, the Bible is insistent that as long as we are alive, believers must take good care of their bodies by keeping them free from immorality and evil (I Cor. 6: 13-20) and by dedicating them to the service of God (Rom. 12:1-2).

MARANATHA [/quote]

Excellent and well thoughout response. I enjoyed reading it. I do have a couple questions though.

What is the context that this is taken from? What is Paul talking about at the time?

That quote from Luke, refering to a hell. What word does your Bible use for hell? The original Greek used there is Hades.

Additionally, from my understand and reasoning on that parable that Jesus used in Luke about the rich man and lazarus, he is not really talking about a burning hell.

There are a couple reasons i say that:

  1. It never says that the rich man did any evil things; it also never says that Lazarus did any good things.

  2. It mentioned Lazarus was in heaven with Abraham. However, Jesus was the first one that ascended to heaven and since he was still on earth giving the parable, there is no way anyone else is in heaven from the Earth. (John 3:13)

  3. It talks about cooling his tongue with one drop of water. A) How could one drop of water make it to a fiery place like that without evaporating and B) What would one drop do for a man that is completely consumed in flames?

Additional Point:
When Lazarus died (Jesus friend, not the one in the parable) what did Jesus say happened to him? Did he say that Lazarus was asleep? Why, if he was going to heaven, would he resurrect him?

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[quote]Jason Lee wrote:
I have a question if one of you who know more about this I can answer. When Jesus was being crucified on the cross, didn’t he forgive those who were crucifying him? Even though they denied that he was God’s son, the Lord Christ? If Jesus forgave them without them knowing him for they denied who he was, did they go to heaven? Sorry if these are stupid questions. I am Christian, but I’m not very familiar with the scriptures and therefore have many questions. Most of which the people I ask cannot answer. [/quote]

I am not going to quote scripture to answer this but tell a story and this is true happened in Houston Texas. I think happened in 1994 give or take a year or two.

A lady was running one morning on the bayou near her house, when a man raped and killed her. The man two days later turned himself into the Police. The police did not even now he was the perpetrator. When asked why he turned himself in? He stated, “I could not get her face out of my mind. While I was rapping her all she could say was that she forgave me, and that Jesus forgives you.” The man while in prison gave his life to Christ. Does the act of Forgiving someone save them? I would say no, but it definately points them in the right direction where to look for the truth. Forgiving someone does not help them, but instead it helps you not to become bitter. The root of evil is bitterness.

With Jesus being the Son of God, do you think he has the power to destroy us all? I believe he does. Dont you think Jesus thought about how he was being treated by these humans and how he was the Son of God and he could just take us all out? He was part human so I think he thought about it, but he knew the plan of God and he wanted to fullfill those wishes. So the act of forgiving us all, for cruxifinig him, helped him to concentrate on the plan. He wants us to be with him in Heaven. He forgives us where we are at. He loves us.

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[quote]blacksheep wrote:
Stated,

“I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell…I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.”

The Bible reveals that human personhood, made in the image of God, is a triunity involving the components of spirit, soul, and body (I Thes. 5:23).

God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground (body) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and he became “a living soul” (Gen. 2:7). God intended that by eating of the tree of life and by obeying His command not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, humankind would never die but would live forever (Gen. 3:P22). Only after death entered the world as a result of human sin do we read about the separation of a person into the dust of the earth and the spirit, which returns to God (Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7). In other words, the separation of the body from the spirit and soul is the results of God’s curse on the human race because of sin and will eventually be remedied only at the resurrection of the body on the last day. The resurrection of the body is an important and essential doctrine in the Scriptures. It refers to God’s raising of a body from the dead and reuniting it with the person’s soul and spirit, from which it was separated (I Cor. 15:51-53).

The soul (Heb. nephesh; Gk. psyche) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial aspects of mind, emotions, senses, and will in human personhood that result from the union of spirit and body. The soul along with the human spirit will continue to live when an individual physically dies. The soul is so closely linked with one’s inner personhood that it is sometimes used as a synonym for “person” (Acts 7:20). The body (Heb. basar; Gk. soma) may be briefly defined as that material element in an individual that returns to the dust when he or she dies (sometimes also called “flesh”). The spirit (Heb. ruach; Gk. pneuma) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial life component of the human being, wherein resides our spiritual capacity and conscience; that aspect is the one whereby we are most in contact with God’s Spirit.

Of the three components that constitute the “whole” of human personhood, only the spirit and soul are indestructible and survive death, either to live in heaven (Rev. 20:4) or in hell (Lk. 16:22-23). However, the Bible is insistent that as long as we are alive, believers must take good care of their bodies by keeping them free from immorality and evil (I Cor. 6: 13-20) and by dedicating them to the service of God (Rom. 12:1-2).

MARANATHA [/quote]

Good job. I need to get a searchable bible, I have the account I just haven’t activated it.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]blacksheep wrote:
Stated,

“I believe that when people die, they go back to the ground. They do not go to hell…I do not believe in an immortal soul. That the body IS the soul and when the body dies, so does the soul.”

The Bible reveals that human personhood, made in the image of God, is a triunity involving the components of spirit, soul, and body (I Thes. 5:23).

God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground (body) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and he became “a living soul” (Gen. 2:7). God intended that by eating of the tree of life and by obeying His command not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, humankind would never die but would live forever (Gen. 3:P22). Only after death entered the world as a result of human sin do we read about the separation of a person into the dust of the earth and the spirit, which returns to God (Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7). In other words, the separation of the body from the spirit and soul is the results of God’s curse on the human race because of sin and will eventually be remedied only at the resurrection of the body on the last day. The resurrection of the body is an important and essential doctrine in the Scriptures. It refers to God’s raising of a body from the dead and reuniting it with the person’s soul and spirit, from which it was separated (I Cor. 15:51-53).

The soul (Heb. nephesh; Gk. psyche) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial aspects of mind, emotions, senses, and will in human personhood that result from the union of spirit and body. The soul along with the human spirit will continue to live when an individual physically dies. The soul is so closely linked with one’s inner personhood that it is sometimes used as a synonym for “person” (Acts 7:20). The body (Heb. basar; Gk. soma) may be briefly defined as that material element in an individual that returns to the dust when he or she dies (sometimes also called “flesh”). The spirit (Heb. ruach; Gk. pneuma) may be briefly defined as the nonmaterial life component of the human being, wherein resides our spiritual capacity and conscience; that aspect is the one whereby we are most in contact with God’s Spirit.

Of the three components that constitute the “whole” of human personhood, only the spirit and soul are indestructible and survive death, either to live in heaven (Rev. 20:4) or in hell (Lk. 16:22-23). However, the Bible is insistent that as long as we are alive, believers must take good care of their bodies by keeping them free from immorality and evil (I Cor. 6: 13-20) and by dedicating them to the service of God (Rom. 12:1-2).

MARANATHA [/quote]

Good job. I need to get a searchable bible, I have the account I just haven’t activated it.[/quote]

Do you all recommend a searchable Bible? I have done everything manually using commentaries and scripture links in the back of my Bible, and from my brain, that I am way behind on technology.

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