The Budget Commission Speaks!

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:

[quote]Edward wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

Yep, but if it takes baby steps to get there then I’ll start by supporting the removal portions of the tax code where the government punishes or rewards people for lifestyle choices.

I should note I’d PERFER a comsumption tax rather than an income tax.[/quote]

I agree with you there, but a flat tax would allow them to cut programs while also gaining revenue for 100% of people in the US. They gain on both fronts…BUT

Why are they not talking about cutting welfare and aid to illegal immigrants?

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A dumb question from an Australian, how do illegal immigrants get welfare in the first place?

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Often through family members who are eligible for welfare. In most states ID is needed, but you can go to the DMV and apply for one, don’t have to show any papers.

To add to the thread, somewhat OT: whenever an increasing amount of people demand more benefits, such as welfare and unemployment bennies, there will be more demands from the government as far as economical resources - draining the private sector. If the private sector funds are dwindling because consumers are buying less goods - unreasonable demands from the government must be ignored. Tea Party anyone?

American political thought is built on limited government, if you compare it to the E.U.

What will become of America?
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I think what is happening is that very few people believe in a truly limited government. What they believe in is a government that limits other peoples benefits but preserves their own because they deserve it and other don’t.

Start listening to a lot of limited government proponents when you talk about cutting Federal funding to schools. They’ll turn into the “Won’t somebody please think of the children” crowd almost instantly. The same goes for all of the tax breaks and credits.

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It’s funny how removing the mortgage interest tax credit is termed “cutting the budget”.

Of course they should not be giving special privileges to homeowners at the expense of renters – if anything they should be cutting taxes for everyone AS WELL AS CUTTING SPENDING.

They will never consider returning money to the private sector where it is best spent to rebuild the economy; nor will they go through with these “budget cuts”.

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[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:

[quote]Edward wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

Yep, but if it takes baby steps to get there then I’ll start by supporting the removal portions of the tax code where the government punishes or rewards people for lifestyle choices.

I should note I’d PERFER a comsumption tax rather than an income tax.[/quote]

I agree with you there, but a flat tax would allow them to cut programs while also gaining revenue for 100% of people in the US. They gain on both fronts…BUT

Why are they not talking about cutting welfare and aid to illegal immigrants?

[/quote]

A dumb question from an Australian, how do illegal immigrants get welfare in the first place?

[/quote]
Often through family members who are eligible for welfare. In most states ID is needed, but you can go to the DMV and apply for one, don’t have to show any papers.

To add to the thread, somewhat OT: whenever an increasing amount of people demand more benefits, such as welfare and unemployment bennies, there will be more demands from the government as far as economical resources - draining the private sector. If the private sector funds are dwindling because consumers are buying less goods - unreasonable demands from the government must be ignored. Tea Party anyone?

American political thought is built on limited government, if you compare it to the E.U.

What will become of America?
[/quote]

I think what is happening is that very few people believe in a truly limited government. What they believe in is a government that limits other peoples benefits but preserves their own because they deserve it and other don’t.

Start listening to a lot of limited government proponents when you talk about cutting Federal funding to schools. They’ll turn into the “Won’t somebody please think of the children” crowd almost instantly. The same goes for all of the tax breaks and credits.[/quote]

Incredibly insightful comments.

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Gridlock is good.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Gridlock is good.[/quote]

Max, you crack me up.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Gridlock is good.[/quote]

Max, you crack me up.[/quote]

He’s absolutely right.

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With neither side in love with the proposed budget cuts and tax increases - liked this article.

“Obama’s Teachable Moment”

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/553579/201011121750/Obamas-Teachable-Moment.htm

Something needs to be done. Doing nothing is no longer an option. This is a chance for the President to be a history maker.

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Greeneyes the Democrats had full control of all three powers, the house, senate and president. They had 2 yrs to pass anything they wanted to, I mean anything. Now all of the sudden people like yourself are complaining about the Republicans not agreeing with the other side. Why?
The Dems passed one of the worst bills in History, health care and looked what happened to them. At least you come of civil. Where were this same people when health care was being passed, how come they did not come out and say hey lets include the Republicans in on this conversation.

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
<<< It’s interesting when you talk to people. They sure are “gung-ho” ready to cut Federal Spending…until it has an impact on them personally. >>>[/quote]Oh how true this is.

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got kids, a house, and am a small business owner.

Some of these things will really be tough on my family and my business (which implies that it will hurt my workers), but I’m willing to do all this and more if it means a better future for my kids and their kids.

The thing that irks me the most is that they are upping SS age in something like 60 years! what the hell! We ought to start upping it in 10 years and get this thing taken care of. They also could have done more to encourage corporation here in the states. Tax reduction is nice, but they could have done more to encourage small corporations as well as reverse the trend of corporations leaving the us.