[quote]PureChance wrote:
excess T requires extra Cortisol which may not leave enough to work with your thyroid.[/quote]
i’m confused doesn’t Cortisol impair LH production inducing low T?
[quote]Fulford wrote:
[quote]PureChance wrote:
excess T requires extra Cortisol which may not leave enough to work with your thyroid.[/quote]
i’m confused doesn’t Cortisol impair LH production inducing low T?
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You don’t have any LH production while on exogeneous T, so no.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
You don’t appear to have gotten the correct E2 test, but your E2 still appears to be pretty low. You were having the estrogenic sides because of your extremely low T levels making you estrogen dominant. It is very possible you won’t even need the Aromasin on your TRT. Personally, I would hold off on the Aromasin until your T levels have steadied and use your symptoms as a guide whether to pick it up or not (or wait 5-6 weeks for bloodwork).
I think you will see good improvements on the T/E[/quote]
Right. I just dont understand the estrogen dominance because I wasn’t makeing any test to turn into estrogen or does the hcg just aromatize directly. Does that make any since. Im going to stick with the eod of aromasin and see how I feel and what the blood work says.
your missing some basic fundamentals of hormonal production Physiologically. For starters have you ever gotten your RBC Zinc levels tested? I’d bet money that their abnormally low. In Zinc’s very nature it inhibits aromatase enzyme (T into E2) along with 5-alpha reductase (T into DHT)
[quote]Fulford wrote:
your missing some basic fundamentals of hormonal production Physiologically. For starters have you ever gotten your RBC Zinc levels tested? I’d bet money that their abnormally low. In Zinc’s very nature it inhibits aromatase enzyme (T into E2) along with 5-alpha reductase (T into DHT) [/quote]
Zinc has been tested once I take 25mg/day. RBC and the rest of a complete pannel was tested at the beginning and will be tested everytime blood work is done.
oh whats your Red blood cell Zinc status like then? could you list everything tested even the things that from your perspective might not hold value.
[quote]railrider1980 wrote:
So the results are in after the HCG treatment and very disappointing. My balls don’t work so well so I guess I don’t need to worry about them.
Total Test 93ng/dl (240-950)
Bio Test 29ng/dl (72-235)
E2 <20pg/ml
So since my balls don’t work Doc wants me to do Test E 100mg/wk and Aromasin 12.5mg E3D and retest in 2 months.
I find it strange that I was taking a more frequent dose of Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD, I was making little to no test but still the estrogen sides. So here we go again.
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I’ve taken some time to think of the options my Endo gave me. 1. As noted above T shots and Aromasin. 2. Get really agressive with the HCG until I get T levels into the 500-600 range and then go to a serm protocol. Im going to go with option 2 to see what happens but Im extremely nervous because of the high doses of HCG but he says we really need to shock my nuts back into working order. For the serm he said I can use either Nolvadex or Clomid. Anybody have any experience with the Nolva? VtBalla I also talked with the Endo about the sides I was having and he agreed it was due to the low test. Im completely prepared to feel like shit for awhile while on a restart if it will eliminate taking the other meds for life. I would just like some feedback on what serms others have used and what results they had so I can make a decision. Right now from other info I’ve seen ksman post im leaning towards using the Nolva. I will also be using the Aromasin with the restart.
Another thought since I used HCG through out my previous protocols before this Dr. and testicle size has been maintained could I just jump to the serm treatment. Just another ? to ask at my appointment on wednesday.