Test, Tren, Anadrol

Pharma / TRT
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It is time to start putting my next run together and getting everything down on paper. So for this run I plan to introduce two (three if the funds are available) new compounds. Previous cycle experience is a single run of Test-cyp @ 750mg/ week that netted decent gains prior to my run in with a horrible case of food poisoning from a salmon burger. Luckily I was only on bed rest for four days and lost roughly 10lbs. So I am sitting right around 225 when I wake 13-14% bf.

For the cycle:
-Weeks 1-14 Test-E @ 250mg/week
-Weeks 1-13 Tren Ace @ 750mg/week
-Weeks 1, 15&16 Test Prop @ 200mg/week
-Weeks 1-4 Anadrol @ 100mg/day
-Weeks 17-20 PCT, 40/40/20/20 Nolva and 50/50/25 Clomid

If funds are available I plan on ending the cycle with 6 weeks of Anavar, but as of now it is not in my hands.

Ancillaries:
-HCG, 250iu M,W,F
-Aromasin, 25mg ed
-T3, starting at 25mcg ed and adjust as needed to combat the thyroid suppressive nature, and long run, of tren.
-Caber and Nolva on hand

Thoughts, suggestions?

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Looks like a lot of fun! You are taking the low test/high tren idea to the extreme…I look forward to seeing how this works for you.

What does anadrol do? I am not at all familiar with it

Your Asin dose is pretty high, for just 250 mg/week of test. I am on 200 mg/week of Test Cyp fro my TRT and I take 25 mg PER WEEK (12.5 mg Mon/Thu). Why such a high dose?

Also, what is your rationale for tren suppressing thyroid? I have not heard of that correlation and would be curious to read more about it.

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Thanks! I agree, the test/ tren ratiois a little high, but by no means crazy. Really looking forward to the partitioning effects of tren coupled with 5k-8k cals a day.

Anadrol, or oxymethalone, is very similar to d-bol. Bill Roberts has written that is a close second, whereas some others claim it to be the “strongest” steroid legally available. I canot agree with the latter without experience, but the fact that it has very little androgen binding makes it awesome in my book. It allows you to run another compound like tren while completely avoiding fighting for receptors. Adversely it does have a high estrogen conversion, hence the higher a-sin dosage. That, and even though I experienced very little sides on 750 mg/ wk test, I still feel like I am prone to estrogenic sides.

I will probably back off slowly on the a-sin dosage after I drop the anadrol, but I would rather be safe than sorry and not have to take nolva because of estrogenic sides while taking a 19-nor.

There has been a ton of stuff written on the thyroid suppression of tren and contest prep. Unfortunately most people do not heed the advice and that is why they wind up with prolactin sides due to thyroid suppression. For me tren is a must, and short of the wolf-like raping symptoms one person reported on here, ha, I am sure I can handle the insomnia and sweats.

Beyond excited for this run as this should be the deciding factor if I can continue with my goals, since the low test/ high tren would be a good base for a lot of my future cycles.

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Looks like a bitchin cycle bro!!

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Looks absolutely kickass!

13 weeks of Acetate though? That’s 91 injections! And I thought I felt like a pincushion with NPP lol :slight_smile:

The T3 is a good call, it will help with cardio and general energy levels beyond cardio. 12.5-25mg a day will definitely keep you lean.

The Androgenicity of Tren will counter the ADrol bloat to some degree, you should look and lift beastmode.

Good luck,
-PTD

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This is a very well thought out and planned cycle.

Did I read correctly that this is your second cycle? if so, my instinct would be to suggest introducing just one new compound, you said the tren is a must for you. And dropping the dose and the length.

However, you are clearly knowledgeable, have done your research and have limited the risks as much as possible.

This will undoubtedly be an awesome cycle that will induce great gains, good luck and keep us posted

Kofy

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Thanks BUDs.

Dave, I thought about going with enth, but I do prefer the properties of ace for a couple reasons. Nice thing is that I will be able to backload slin pins and put it almost anywhere so muscle overlap shouldn’t be an issue. But yes, 91 for tren, 21 for prop, not including the test-e, I think I will have plenty of practice after this.

Thanks for the support guys. I may try to do a picture log similar to zraw if I can figure out a way to photoshop out my tattoos, or pose where they are not distinguishable, as they are a dead give away to my identity if someone that knew me saw them.

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Maybe just put makeup over the tattoos while posing? I dunno. Im always curious to see guys pics and physiques up on here as I am dabbling with eventually going the assisted route myself.

Re: thyroid suppression durin contest prep. I wonder how much of that is due to the tren and how much is just from dieting in general. Dieting to contest lean levels of bodyfat is well known to suppress thyroid, so maybe correlation is not causation in this case? I can’t think of a a mechanism of action that would lead tren to suppress thyroid, but whatevs. A small dose of T3 surely won’t hurt.

Know what you’re lookin for with the Aromasin and low E2 sides. As mentioned I normally take 25 mg/week on 200 mg/week of Test, but bought a different brand a while back that only came in capsules and not pills that I was used to. Since I couldn’t cut the cap up like I could the pill as easily, I just took 25 mg twice a week instead. Within a couple weeks, my dick was useful for nothing more than a pretty christmas ornament. No life at all! Mood was poor and my joints hurts like a mother fucker. I skipped a couple doses and went back to my old pill source and thins hve been smooth sailin sense.

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[quote]kofy wrote:
This is a very well thought out and planned cycle.

Did I read correctly that this is your second cycle? if so, my instinct would be to suggest introducing just one new compound, you said the tren is a must for you. And dropping the dose and the length.

However, you are clearly knowledgeable, have done your research and have limited the risks as much as possible.

This will undoubtedly be an awesome cycle that will induce great gains, good luck and keep us posted

Kofy
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Thanks Kofy, yes you read right, this will be #2 in the book. However, I have been doing research for roughly 9 years, maybe a little longer, and some of my good freinds are either current ifbb, or aspiring to be, so I am around a lot of knowledgable people as well. Would I recommend someone else do this cycle for their second run? No. But, I am pretty confident that I have all the angles thought out. Thank you for the kind words, and yes, I think this will be an awesome cycle.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Maybe just put makeup over the tattoos while posing? I dunno. Im always curious to see guys pics and physiques up on here as I am dabbling with eventually going the assisted route myself.

Re: thyroid suppression durin contest prep. I wonder how much of that is due to the tren and how much is just from dieting in general. Dieting to contest lean levels of bodyfat is well known to suppress thyroid, so maybe correlation is not causation in this case? I can’t think of a a mechanism of action that would lead tren to suppress thyroid, but whatevs. A small dose of T3 surely won’t hurt.

Know what you’re lookin for with the Aromasin and low E2 sides. As mentioned I normally take 25 mg/week on 200 mg/week of Test, but bought a different brand a while back that only came in capsules and not pills that I was used to. Since I couldn’t cut the cap up like I could the pill as easily, I just took 25 mg twice a week instead. Within a couple weeks, my dick was useful for nothing more than a pretty christmas ornament. No life at all! Mood was poor and my joints hurts like a mother fucker. I skipped a couple doses and went back to my old pill source and thins hve been smooth sailin sense.

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The makeup might be possible, I’ll see if the Mrs can pick up a tub of concealer at BJ’s or something. I like the idea of the picture log as it not only holds me more accountable to my diet, but also helps any guys looking to go the same route as there isn’t a lot of literature on the rise from zero experience to super-heavyweight.

I am sure that the severe calorie deficits play somewhat into thyroid suppression for pre-contest, but the general consensus is that tren itself is the main culprit. In any format, bulk, recomp, or cut, there has been proof that it does suppress, thus driving up the prolactin sides. I obviously would only want the minimum T3 needed as I do plan on putting as much weight on as possible on this cycle and one more before some shows I would like to enter next fall.

I am kind of starting over again with the AI, I found I was an over-responder to Adex, and honestly did not like it. I am interested in trying Asin as a lot of people have said that it is milder on libido (the Mrs wasn’t happy for a few weeks while figuring out that I was an over-responder) and other hormonal effects.