Test E/EQ/Tren and Libido

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[quote]edk3335 wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
300mg/day of b6.

I wouldnt even think with that slow estered tren it would be having that much of a negative effect yet at this point in time.

I’ve never done tren before so I dunno, but Im definitely reacting negatively to it. my libido went from super active on test to barely existant while on tren. So its gotta be that, and as disgusting as it sounds Im able to squeeze out clear looking shit out of my nips. its tripping me the fck out.

picked up b6 200mg tabs, hopefully it will change things a lil bit. otherwise Im dropping tren all together if this shit doesnt resolve within a week or two.

how soon should b6 work? I’m not sure where to get caber or if I can even get it over the counter. someone PM some info please. I’m having some trouble finding info on this.

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Prolactin is what causes lactation - and it is what gives the satisfied and LIMP feeling after sex. it is a potent libido dropper - it seems that genetically, you have a very high sensitivity to prolactin effects…

I would personally consider dropping the tren if i were you, some of us arent meant to use certain drugs. I get shut down very bad by 19-NORS - so i dont take them anymore, but i might add that i dont suffer nearly as bad as you seem to…

Caber is a necessity for you (YES it is prescription only like testosterone, nolvadex, arimidex, clomiphene and god knows what else you use…! WTF?) - and it will be a massive help, but if you cant get it then i would consider dropping the tren and sending it to Saps or Ddrrtt(sp?).
I personally dont know the effectiveness of B6 on prolactin, but i would much prefer caber - to the guys who know, just how good is b6?

j

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[quote] JJ wrote:
i would consider dropping the tren and sending it to Saps or Ddrrtt(sp?).
I personally dont know the effectiveness of B6 on prolactin, but i would much prefer caber - to the guys who know, just how good is b6?

j[/quote]

Gotta love that JJ; always looking out for a friend :slight_smile:

b6 will reduce the amount of prolactin there is but just how much and how quickly is hard to quantify. Now don’t quote me here but I think b6 could take weeks to do what cabergoline could do in days; and even then not drive it as low as caber could. As aforementioned once you’ve already sprung a leak its a band-aid solution.

Bushy knows better I’m sure

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Vitamin B6 is too mild with the prolactin surge you are experiencing. Cabergoline is the only way to go. I would stay away from research chem Cabergoline that is in solution as it degrades very quickly.

In the meantime I would discontinue the Tren until you have the prolactin issue taken care of. I would also hit the AI’s hard. Use Letro if you have it. Getting estrogen as low as possible will help prevent some of the prolactin induced gyno you are getting. Prolactin and estrogen work in tandem to increase breast tissue.

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I have recently said the exact same to the OP via PM.

The B6 he has is also oral.

I have long had suspicions about the OP’s ability to use AAS safely and without issue, and this situation has proved my suspiscions correct sadly.

I do hope that the fact that you have repeated my advice totally independantly that he will now decide to stop the Tren and get some Caber… these are not “everyday” side effects after all…

For some reason OP, i find your ignorance no motivation to continue helping you…

JJ

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[quote] JJ wrote:
I have recently said the exact same to the OP via PM.

The B6 he has is also oral.

I have long had suspicions about the OP’s ability to use AAS safely and without issue, and this situation has proved my suspiscions correct sadly.

I do hope that the fact that you have repeated my advice totally independantly that he will now decide to stop the Tren and get some Caber… these are not “everyday” side effects after all…

For some reason OP, i find your ignorance no motivation to continue helping you…

JJ[/quote]

Dude whos “OP”? and what are you talking about?
if you infact are talking about me, my name is not OP…I’ll just go by “Ed”

Further more I appreciate any help as I have stated numerous times, and I’m on this site to further my knowledge. Doing so I form my own opinions and make my own decisions, and if you can’t respect that I dunno what to tell ya bud.

I give everyone respect until I have a reason not to. I’ve taken YOUR advice along with others, even though there seems to be a whole lot of contradicting information on this website along with the rest of the internet.

Unfortunately, I don’t believe anyone here is an actual doctor, although there are a few with very impressive knowledge base on the subject, probably enough to put most doctors to shame.

So I have Caber on the way (thanks to a couple helpful individuals) and Im loaded on B6. Nothing more I can do at the time but cut down on tren a little.

No I won’t completely stop it because I love the effects besides the negative ones so far, and it seems to be working for me very well.
No disrespect but I won’t jump to things at the snap of your fingers J, nor will I send you my gear bud haha but uhh…I’m in no way ignorant, I just choose to ride this out and learn based on my own experiences. I do appreciate all the input so far.

no need to flame, seems like a lot of guys live for that shit on here. other then sound advice I dont really care to hear it, and if anything I type on here bothers you then simply dont read it.

thanks

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[quote]Dopa wrote:
Vitamin B6 is too mild with the prolactin surge you are experiencing. Cabergoline is the only way to go. I would stay away from research chem Cabergoline that is in solution as it degrades very quickly.

In the meantime I would discontinue the Tren until you have the prolactin issue taken care of. I would also hit the AI’s hard. Use Letro if you have it. Getting estrogen as low as possible will help prevent some of the prolactin induced gyno you are getting. Prolactin and estrogen work in tandem to increase breast tissue.[/quote]

Thanks, I actually ordered the brand name and not research chem. I’m not seeing or feeling any tissue and have never had an issue with gyno even with high dosages so I’m not that worried about it.

The big issue for me is libidio, as it is for my girl haha. I never did tren before so it really threw me off, Deca has shut me down pretty bad before but I don’t have experience with Tren.

maybe a little Cialis would help while on cycle as I plan to finish my 10 weeks

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The Cialis won’t help the libido, just hardness. Cabergoline on the other hand will definitely make a big differance.

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[quote]Dopa wrote:
The Cialis won’t help the libido, just hardness. Cabergoline on the other hand will definitely make a big differance.[/quote]

good stuff

by the way this cycle is amazing so far. just started 4th week, Im up 8 lbs and never looked more solid in my life. people are starring again :slight_smile:

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[quote]edk3335 wrote:
JJ wrote:
I have recently said the exact same to the OP via PM.

The B6 he has is also oral.

I have long had suspicions about the OP’s ability to use AAS safely and without issue, and this situation has proved my suspiscions correct sadly.

I do hope that the fact that you have repeated my advice totally independantly that he will now decide to stop the Tren and get some Caber… these are not “everyday” side effects after all…

For some reason OP, i find your ignorance no motivation to continue helping you…

JJ

Dude whos “OP”? and what are you talking about?
if you infact are talking about me, my name is not OP…I’ll just go by “Ed”

Further more I appreciate any help as I have stated numerous times, and I’m on this site to further my knowledge. Doing so I form my own opinions and make my own decisions, and if you can’t respect that I dunno what to tell ya bud.

I give everyone respect until I have a reason not to. I’ve taken YOUR advice along with others, even though there seems to be a whole lot of contradicting information on this website along with the rest of the internet.

Unfortunately, I don’t believe anyone here is an actual doctor, although there are a few with very impressive knowledge base on the subject, probably enough to put most doctors to shame.

So I have Caber on the way (thanks to a couple helpful individuals) and Im loaded on B6. Nothing more I can do at the time but cut down on tren a little.

No I won’t completely stop it because I love the effects besides the negative ones so far, and it seems to be working for me very well.
No disrespect but I won’t jump to things at the snap of your fingers J, nor will I send you my gear bud haha but uhh…I’m in no way ignorant, I just choose to ride this out and learn based on my own experiences. I do appreciate all the input so far.

no need to flame, seems like a lot of guys live for that shit on here. other then sound advice I dont really care to hear it, and if anything I type on here bothers you then simply dont read it.

thanks[/quote]

Funny this… cos you still send me god knows how many PM’s a day dont you…

As i have said to you privately, IF you are lactating then just using oral B6 and not ordering caber (as was what you primarily said), and then not removing or reducing the tren (as you originally said to me)-AFTER being advised on the subject, IS ignorant.

Still, you are NOW making the correct decisions, but not before i wrote a harsher post and PM regarding your use of ONLY Oral B6 and the same dose of tren when you think you are lactating, and your libido is gone even with the use of exo test (which screams PROLACTIN, PROLACTIN). Which i may add was after mine and dopa’s posts giving the same advice.

I am not a doctor, if you want a doctor go and see one. you come here for advice. You WERE NOT taking the advice when i wrote that post. Now you are. good for you, but you dont get to ‘have a go’ at me for dispairing at your apparent ignorance. Ignorance is not the same thing as being uneducated on a subject… I have no problem with someone not knowing what to do - IF i can help you can bet anything that i will try.

ANYWAY, i am glad that you have some caber on the way, as i wrote in a PM, i hope you are also using adex, and i hope this cycle works out.

If you want to PM a question to me, then by all means do. Do not expect me to suffer reckless foolishness lightly though… Again, if i can help and you deserve it i will - that is a benefit of not being a doctor, i dont HAVE to help anyone.

Good luck.

JJ

PS: OP means original post/poster…

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[quote] JJ wrote:
edk3335 wrote:
JJ wrote:
I have recently said the exact same to the OP via PM.

The B6 he has is also oral.

I have long had suspicions about the OP’s ability to use AAS safely and without issue, and this situation has proved my suspiscions correct sadly.

I do hope that the fact that you have repeated my advice totally independantly that he will now decide to stop the Tren and get some Caber… these are not “everyday” side effects after all…

For some reason OP, i find your ignorance no motivation to continue helping you…

JJ

Dude whos “OP”? and what are you talking about?
if you infact are talking about me, my name is not OP…I’ll just go by “Ed”

Further more I appreciate any help as I have stated numerous times, and I’m on this site to further my knowledge. Doing so I form my own opinions and make my own decisions, and if you can’t respect that I dunno what to tell ya bud.

I give everyone respect until I have a reason not to. I’ve taken YOUR advice along with others, even though there seems to be a whole lot of contradicting information on this website along with the rest of the internet.

Unfortunately, I don’t believe anyone here is an actual doctor, although there are a few with very impressive knowledge base on the subject, probably enough to put most doctors to shame.

So I have Caber on the way (thanks to a couple helpful individuals) and Im loaded on B6. Nothing more I can do at the time but cut down on tren a little.

No I won’t completely stop it because I love the effects besides the negative ones so far, and it seems to be working for me very well.
No disrespect but I won’t jump to things at the snap of your fingers J, nor will I send you my gear bud haha but uhh…I’m in no way ignorant, I just choose to ride this out and learn based on my own experiences. I do appreciate all the input so far.

no need to flame, seems like a lot of guys live for that shit on here. other then sound advice I dont really care to hear it, and if anything I type on here bothers you then simply dont read it.

thanks

Funny this… cos you still send me god knows how many PM’s a day dont you…

As i have said to you privately, IF you are lactating then just using oral B6 and not ordering caber (as was what you primarily said), and then not removing or reducing the tren (as you originally said to me)-AFTER being advised on the subject, IS ignorant.

Still, you are NOW making the correct decisions, but not before i wrote a harsher post and PM regarding your use of ONLY Oral B6 and the same dose of tren when you think you are lactating, and your libido is gone even with the use of exo test (which screams PROLACTIN, PROLACTIN). Which i may add was after mine and dopa’s posts giving the same advice.

I am not a doctor, if you want a doctor go and see one. you come here for advice. You WERE NOT taking the advice when i wrote that post. Now you are. good for you, but you dont get to ‘have a go’ at me for dispairing at your apparent ignorance. Ignorance is not the same thing as being uneducated on a subject… I have no problem with someone not knowing what to do - IF i can help you can bet anything that i will try.

ANYWAY, i am glad that you have some caber on the way, as i wrote in a PM, i hope you are also using adex, and i hope this cycle works out.

If you want to PM a question to me, then by all means do. Do not expect me to suffer reckless foolishness lightly though… Again, if i can help and you deserve it i will - that is a benefit of not being a doctor, i dont HAVE to help anyone.

Good luck.

JJ

PS: OP means original post/poster…[/quote]

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