Teen Committed Suicide Over 'Sexting'

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I’m not going to mix in to your discussion about psychology and philosophy but I definitely have something to say, as I experienced something relevant to the topic from both sides of the spectrum.

I have been bullied quite hard for 4 years in the primary school and yes, thoughts of suicide came to my mind, but I guess that everybody who is in a situation like that for such a long time comes acros thoughts like that. So I developed a kind of empathy for people that don’t get along with others well, and people who are wrongfully treated like shit by others.

But on the other hand, I myself once was that “dickhead” that printed out and spreaded nude pictures of one of my classmates throughout the whole school, with the persons name, class and cell phone number. To justify my action let me say that the guy is a totall dickhead himself. I’m not going to write an in-depth description of his fucked-up personality and flaws, because I think it’s worthless.

The story goes like this. One of my friends (a chick) creates a fake account on some stupid social internet page and texts him, tells him some stupid cliches and he is absolutelly hooked on her and sends her a link to his “locked” album on this stupid page along with a password (the security of that page is literally nonexistant so it doesn’t matter anyway). She then sends the pass along with the sick-perverse-fuckedup message log to me, and tells that she has and idea of spreading the photos.

He changed the password to the album, but the link to it was somewhat still functioning (hence the internet security), so I can’t even say that I cracked the password or hacked his account or whatever - but I got the photos. She was too afraid to do it herself, she thought somebody will find out she did it and that she would have problems because of it - so I did it.

The things he wrote, and the way he wrote them were the main reason for me to do what I did - the guy just struck me like a sick bastard.

Long story short : Stupid dude puts his nudes on the internet, i get them and spread them over the whole school.

Yeah it was none of my business, and he didn’t do anything bad to me personally. So?! It should served him as a lesson, if he killed himself because of it (although this case is a bit different, because he was not bullied in some hardcore way, a few people made fun of him because of it a few times, and that was it, the whole thing didn’t last a month) I wouldn’t feel any remorse, and if I did I would try to talk myself out of it with rational thoughts.

My point is - Goddammit kids grow some fucking balls and be ready to take responsibility for your actions, and realize that some stupid issues in highshool don’t mean shit and adopt that “fuck it” attitude that Prof X was talking about on page 1.

That being said - The guy from the original post is still a dickhead because of breaking the trust like someone a few posts above said, but it is not his fault that she is dead. Life is a bitch, people are nasty, don’t trust anybody - The sooner you fully realize that, the less mistakes and disappointings you’ll undergo in life.

I hope my thoughts came out like I planned, my english is not exactly 100% so sorry for any mistakes.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Cherry picking

Give me about 5 months and I will have a degree in this.

These diseases are far more complex than most people realize. Just as personality has an enormous number of variables present, so does personality disorder. We KNOW that some genetic factors are involved. We KNOW that some biochemical factors are involved. We KNOW that some social factors are involved. The human mind, however, is far too complex to make the same definitive predictions that can be made in other fields of medicine (ie, this virus induces this sickness with these symptoms).

The fact that the mind is too complex to make accurate predictions, however, does not discredit entirely the fact that we do know that these factors have a role. If things were as simple as your position on the matter, then there wouldnt be such wide ranging variability in human personality.

As for your comment about “bigorexia”…the issues that many have with that “syndrome” stem from the fact that it is over-simplified and far too general…much like the assertions that you are making in this thread. That is an entirely different discussion though and bears little relevance to this thread.

So you’re saying ‘We know some things have an effect, but we don’t know what things, exactly, we don’t know what that effect is, or how it contributes to the condition, and we can’t use any of this information to predict anything.’

So you’re like a weatherman, then?

I thought science wasn’t science unless it could accurately predict future outcomes. Isn’t that the entire point?

Your psychology sounds much more like fortune-telling than actual science.
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We know that things have an effect and we know that these effects are either positive or negatively correlated. We know there is causality. However, due to the vast interplay of other factors, it is hard to make precise judgements because there are, quite simply, too many variables at work.

Science is: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method

As with anything else, there is an inevitable variability involved. This is true in every field. There are very few laws that are 100% accurate 100% of the time. If you want to use the argument that, because psychology is unable to definitively predict behavior and personality-it is pseudoscience, then you must be prepared to redefine the meaning of science itself and refute the validity of all other fields.