Interesting. Why would the repeal of net neutrality require a level of faith in your fellow man that you simply do not have?
In the absence of further regs (which let’s be honest won’t be coming out of this admin), the level of control that companies that are already overpowered (ISP oligopolies) would have over specific internet use cases scares the shit out of me.
Whether or not you believe ISPs WILL control internet usage and/or choice, giving them the option is outside of my comfort zone.
My mind always jumps to this U.S. pharmaceutical company raises price of AIDS medication by 5,000 percent | PBS NewsHour but in ISP form.
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Companies have too much control, but an entity that can control those companies with force/threat of force does not have too much power.
Hey @pfury I hate ISP’s so it’s hard to be fair about this for me.
Did they do anything noxious to make the Obama admin pass the net neutrality rule? They can already charge for data… using more or less. I’ve never had access to sites withheld as far as I’m aware.
Was this a solution in search of a problem?
IIRC the core was around certain ISPs trying to restrict access to a competitor’s site and/or sites they didn’t want to support. I’d have to look it up to be sure.
Lesser of 2 evils for me. Far far lesser.
Serious question, do you support a full privatization and deregulation of America’s water supply? Why or why not?
The idea that the greater evil is the one that can be forcibly controlled by the other is…interesting.
I support full privatization of everything because it maximizes choice. I support every secession movement, no matter the reason behind it, for the same reason.
Companies trade in cash flow. At a certain breakpoint, it’s more financially sound to accept public outrage in lieu of extra expense/lower revenue (think when car companies decide to recall faulty airbags).
Re: govt, the currency IS public outrage. Or rather, public sentiment. By keeping literal life and death things like utilities out of the hands of private market, you avoid the inevitable tradeoff of more revenues in exchange for lives (ala faulty airbags scaled to elec/gas/water).
Not that mistakes don’t happen, but purely private industries create a breakpoint I’m not personally comfortable with.
Gotcha.
That’s because net neutrality has been in place since the advent of the internet. It’s all we’ve known. The repeal of NN will allow your ISP to dictate what sites you have access to, the speed at which you can access certain sites, and/or how much you pay to visit them.
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I thought the rule wasn’t passed until 2015. I know wireless carriers are free to throttle to their hearts content.
Also throttling certain sites just opens up ISP’s to lawsuits in my opinion. If they can charge people more for site A than site B, why can’t they stop kiddy porn and drug sites?
Generally that refers to overall limitations on the bandwidth/speed their users get and is not site specific.
It would up and until NN is repealed.
People use Tor and/or VPNs to access those sites lest they want to get on the FBI’s list and/or arrested. Because of that, I’m not sure what capabilities the ISPs have to determine who’s visiting those sites.
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It’s been around forever, just got amp’d up under Obama
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I don’t even know how to respond.
This is the most…interesting?..reason for supporting government control of private business I’ve ever seen. Utilities=literal life and death/Government War and Genocide=something else
Nah it’s not, I’m just not articulate enough to define it well.
Boils down to hedging against human nature. Same as any other person that doesn’t feel the way you do about any and all addition of choices being a good thing.
Kind of like how it’s advisable to hedge against market risk by investing everything in one company?
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Nope
How is giving the government (any government) control over something hedging against human nature?
Govt’s operate under a set of rules and are fundamentally pointed at making the masses as happy as possible (or insert some level of sheep verbiage if you prefer) in order to get reelected.
Private companies are out to make a profit, we can often times directly conflict with the happiness of the average consumer (ala AIDS meds, ala ISPs).
Also increased exposure, public outrage reverting things the public doesn’t like, yada yada broken record.
That’s certainly an interesting perspective.
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One person’s perspective is another’s incoherent non-sense. Tomato, retard-o … nahmean?
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