[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Pat, why did you post the same thing 3 times? hahahahahaha[/quote]
Dang! I thought it was starting to seem familiar by the 3rd time through.[/quote]
huh… I didn’t know I did. If I did it, it was an accident. It certainly wasn’t a point worth repeating. Because I am stumped on this one…
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Pat, why did you post the same thing 3 times? hahahahahaha[/quote]
Dang! I thought it was starting to seem familiar by the 3rd time through.[/quote]
huh… I didn’t know I did. If I did it, it was an accident. It certainly wasn’t a point worth repeating. Because I am stumped on this one…[/quote]
It is just the interwebz, there must have been a glitch in the matrix to cause the deja vu 3 times. lol.
Uh Oh, Obama is going to go into Syria alone. I thought he always wanted the world to back what he is doing? Guess not.
So I bought GLD right before the close today. I’m not much of a trader, I usually buy stocks with the intent of holding fairly long term but I got to thinking about this mess and I figure if we bomb Syria over the weekend Gold will go way up on Monday. If we don’t attack, gold probably won’t change much and I can measure the sentiment and decide if I want to stay in or not. What do you guys think?
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Uh Oh, Obama is going to go into Syria alone. I thought he always wanted the world to back what he is doing? Guess not.[/quote]
Even though the article says it doesn’t, this looks so strikingly similar to Iraq it is freakin ridiculous.
After all of the partisan chest thumping and claim of moral high ground, they are doing the exact same thing.
[quote]on edge wrote:
So I bought GLD right before the close today. I’m not much of a trader, I usually buy stocks with the intent of holding fairly long term but I got to thinking about this mess and I figure if we bomb Syria over the weekend Gold will go way up on Monday. If we don’t attack, gold probably won’t change much and I can measure the sentiment and decide if I want to stay in or not. What do you guys think?[/quote]
Not a bad idea. Mine have been tipping down a little this past week as people move money into more stable positions.
[quote]pat wrote:
It was weird, new tactical weapons with great accuracy, fighting methodologies from the previous 5 centuries. When using muskets, you could line up shoulder to shoulder and have a good chance of being missed. With rifled barrels, you were going down.
I would have been in a tree with the six shot rifle. Fuck standing in a line. That’s begging to die.[/quote]
I hope you mean the reportedly excellent (though not long range) Spencer and not the Colt, which had the bad habit of all six chambers going off at once. Not a big deal with a pistol, but a serious problem when your left hand is on the fore-stock.
hope the video comes thru. thoughts? Bolton is one of those guys I have a lot of respect for, regardless of party and it is interesting to hear him talk
JHC is there a middle eastern country we can stay the F out of…
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Uh Oh, Obama is going to go into Syria alone. I thought he always wanted the world to back what he is doing? Guess not.[/quote]
Not bad for a Nobel Peace Prize winner.
Well obama is now looking to get congressional approval. The russians have made a few more statements along with everyone else so this is a potential prelude to world war 3
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
Well obama is now looking to get congressional approval. The russians have made a few more statements along with everyone else so this is a potential prelude to world war 3[/quote]
Na, this will be a proxy guerilla war with Russia and Iran.
Bit like Vietnam, just with religious fanatics.
Cant have a proper WW without Europe or Asia and we are staying the fuck out of it.
Where’s that Muslim Valarie Jarett when u need her? At prayer, or meeting with the president crooked half-brother no doubt.
Corrupt mother fuckers.
FYI, I was at Gold’s Gym (here in Japan) last night doing cardio after my workout. For the 45 minutes I was on the treadmill, half an hour had Obama speaking and footage of the current situation in Syria. I didn’t listen in because I was irritated enough to see it on TV in the gym, in Japan no less. This tells me only one thing. The US is setting the stage for war, I don’t think there is any backing out now. First time I’ve seen it here in Japan (I admit I don’t watch a ton of TV) but it tells me things are far gone.
Here is my opinion.
I hope USA and any other country stays the fuck out of Syria because I am afraid the consequenes could be horrible and beyond
horrible in dead civillians( wich is horrible enough ), but as in making the situation in the region even more tense.
I also think the question everyone should ask themself is; how will killing some people over there with bombs improve the situation?
Also its cheaper not to go in, I have registered that most folks here are concernded about the decifit.
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
FYI, I was at Gold’s Gym (here in Japan) last night doing cardio after my workout. For the 45 minutes I was on the treadmill, half an hour had Obama speaking and footage of the current situation in Syria. I didn’t listen in because I was irritated enough to see it on TV in the gym, in Japan no less. This tells me only one thing. The US is setting the stage for war, I don’t think there is any backing out now. First time I’ve seen it here in Japan (I admit I don’t watch a ton of TV) but it tells me things are far gone.[/quote]
I don’t follow politics, news and world issues very closely but I have to say I disagree.
My understanding is a few months back Obama made some statements about if Syria used chemical weapons, the US would retaliate. Now that that has happened, Obama has found his heart really isn’t all that into it so he’s turning to congress because he knows they will vote it down and get him off the hook. He could just be Commander & Chief and order a strike but he’s turning to congress instead.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
FYI, I was at Gold’s Gym (here in Japan) last night doing cardio after my workout. For the 45 minutes I was on the treadmill, half an hour had Obama speaking and footage of the current situation in Syria. I didn’t listen in because I was irritated enough to see it on TV in the gym, in Japan no less. This tells me only one thing. The US is setting the stage for war, I don’t think there is any backing out now. First time I’ve seen it here in Japan (I admit I don’t watch a ton of TV) but it tells me things are far gone.[/quote]
I don’t follow politics, news and world issues very closely but I have to say I disagree.
My understanding is a few months back Obama made some statements about if Syria used chemical weapons, the US would retaliate. Now that that has happened, Obama has found his heart really isn’t all that into it so he’s turning to congress because he knows they will vote it down and get him off the hook. He could just be Commander & Chief and order a strike but he’s turning to congress instead.[/quote]
Try this:
"The tepid, symbolic response that the US is poised to adopt in response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons represents a clear signal to Iran. Both the planned strikes and the growing possibility that the US will scrap even a symbolic military strike in Syria tell Iran it has nothing to fear from Obama.
Iran achieved a strategic achievement by exposing the US as a paper tiger in Syria. With this accomplishment in hand, the Iranians will feel free to call Obama’s bluff on their nuclear weapons project. Obama’s “shot across the bow” response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons in a mass casualty attack signaled the Iranians that the US will not stop them from developing and deploying a nuclear arsenal.
Policy-makers and commentators who have insisted that we can trust Obama to keep his pledge to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons have based their view on an argument that now lies in tatters. They insisted that by pledging to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power, Obama staked his reputation on acting competently to prevent Iran from getting the bomb. To avoid losing face, they said, Obama will keep his pledge.
Obama’s behavior on Syria has rendered this position indefensible. Obama is perfectly content with shooting a couple of pot shots at empty government installations. As far as he is concerned, the conduct of air strikes in Syria is not about Syria, or Iran. They are not the target audience of the strikes. The target audience for US air strikes in Syria is the disengaged, uninformed American public."
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
FYI, I was at Gold’s Gym (here in Japan) last night doing cardio after my workout. For the 45 minutes I was on the treadmill, half an hour had Obama speaking and footage of the current situation in Syria. I didn’t listen in because I was irritated enough to see it on TV in the gym, in Japan no less. This tells me only one thing. The US is setting the stage for war, I don’t think there is any backing out now. First time I’ve seen it here in Japan (I admit I don’t watch a ton of TV) but it tells me things are far gone.[/quote]
I don’t follow politics, news and world issues very closely but I have to say I disagree.
My understanding is a few months back Obama made some statements about if Syria used chemical weapons, the US would retaliate. Now that that has happened, Obama has found his heart really isn’t all that into it so he’s turning to congress because he knows they will vote it down and get him off the hook. He could just be Commander & Chief and order a strike but he’s turning to congress instead.[/quote]
Try this:
"The tepid, symbolic response that the US is poised to adopt in response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons represents a clear signal to Iran. Both the planned strikes and the growing possibility that the US will scrap even a symbolic military strike in Syria tell Iran it has nothing to fear from Obama.
Iran achieved a strategic achievement by exposing the US as a paper tiger in Syria. With this accomplishment in hand, the Iranians will feel free to call Obama’s bluff on their nuclear weapons project. Obama’s “shot across the bow” response to Syria’s use of chemical weapons in a mass casualty attack signaled the Iranians that the US will not stop them from developing and deploying a nuclear arsenal.
Policy-makers and commentators who have insisted that we can trust Obama to keep his pledge to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons have based their view on an argument that now lies in tatters. They insisted that by pledging to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power, Obama staked his reputation on acting competently to prevent Iran from getting the bomb. To avoid losing face, they said, Obama will keep his pledge.
Obama’s behavior on Syria has rendered this position indefensible. Obama is perfectly content with shooting a couple of pot shots at empty government installations. As far as he is concerned, the conduct of air strikes in Syria is not about Syria, or Iran. They are not the target audience of the strikes. The target audience for US air strikes in Syria is the disengaged, uninformed American public."
Ooooh what if the chemical weapon attack was a covert Iranian operation with the objective of measuring the US response?
Obama continually looks worse and worse. He won the Nobel Peace prize and during his campaign talked about pulling out troops of the Middle East. Then he made claims about chemical warfare in Syria and how he’ll intervene on their behalf for human rights. Chemical weapons are used and Obama backs down and looks to Congress to be his scapegoat. IF they do attack, he’s already informed Syria of how the attack will occur, what and where the targets will be, and when.
He’s losing credibility both here and especially internationally. I’m sure Putin is laughing his ass off.
