[quote]countingbeans wrote:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/357662/rand-pauls-war-robert-costa?splash=
Really starting to like this dude.
He isn’t his father, but seems to share most of the good stuff and not so much of the bad stuff. [/quote]
Agreed. Whaddya think the chances would be for “Paul in '16”, if it was Rand, not Ron?
And let’s be honest, Dad would probably be doing a fair bit of advising behind the scenes.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Whaddya think the chances would be for “Paul in '16”, if it was Rand, not Ron?
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I think the typical “liberal” (have to use quotes because the man is a classic liberal more than any Contemporary American Liberal) response would be “oh Gee look at that, the GOP ran another white male.”
He’ll be up against Warren, Clinton or Patrick (current MA gov). So they’ll play the race/gender card.
However things keep going as they are, and I’m pretty sure America will be all set with a Democratic administration.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’m against the Syrian intervention but the following makes me want to switch sides on the argument just for the sheer thrill of bloodying up the Iranian tyrants should they carry through on any kind of threats like these:
Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Read more: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria | The Daily Caller
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Occurs to me that the ONLY reason an intervention is being considered is precisely because of possible retaliations such as this, which would of course lead the US into open conflict with Iran. I mean, isn’t that the goal? Trick them into attacking either us or Israel so that we can unleash a can of whoopass on their turbanny little heads?
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’m against the Syrian intervention but the following makes me want to switch sides on the argument just for the sheer thrill of bloodying up the Iranian tyrants should they carry through on any kind of threats like these:
Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Read more: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria | The Daily Caller
[/quote]
Occurs to me that the ONLY reason an intervention is being considered is precisely because of possible retaliations such as this, which would of course lead the US into open conflict with Iran. I mean, isn’t that the goal? Trick them into attacking either us or Israel so that we can unleash a can of whoopass on their turbanny little heads?[/quote]
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[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
And if you read my post I stated, I heard 100 times, which makes it hearsay not probable.
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My bad I misread your original post.
I still stand by my opinion that regardless of what he had done the right would have found fault with it.[/quote]
This whole mess is just that a mess. Russians are showing proof that the Opposition are the ones that did it, and Obama is saying it is Assad. I personally do not like either side. You have a tyrant or Al Qaeda. If he just launched some cruise missiles and was done I would have backed Obama’s decision. This is just hypocrisy to me. Obama is doing the exact same thing that W Bush did. There is a great divide in both parties on what to do.
If this is a proxy war why not then just go into Iran and be done with it?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’m against the Syrian intervention but the following makes me want to switch sides on the argument just for the sheer thrill of bloodying up the Iranian tyrants should they carry through on any kind of threats like these:
Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Read more: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria | The Daily Caller
[/quote]
Occurs to me that the ONLY reason an intervention is being considered is precisely because of possible retaliations such as this, which would of course lead the US into open conflict with Iran. I mean, isn’t that the goal? Trick them into attacking either us or Israel so that we can unleash a can of whoopass on their turbanny little heads?[/quote]
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Whoa!! What the hell? We can’t have journalists going over to enemy territory and portraying our enemies as human beings similar to ourselves. They’ll fuck everything up.
Lol at the American woman who didn’t think the Iranians were intelligent enough to understand irony.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’m against the Syrian intervention but the following makes me want to switch sides on the argument just for the sheer thrill of bloodying up the Iranian tyrants should they carry through on any kind of threats like these:
Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Read more: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria | The Daily Caller
[/quote]
You just don’t get it do you? Knowing how worldly-wise you are Push I am surprised you are being goaded so easily and not looking at your own country.
The US has invaded and destabilized how many country’s now through war and black ops courtesy of the CIA? Your country created the drugs problem in the Americas and now you’re creating huge problems in the Middle East through nothing more than securing resources (or the lack thereof) and influence in the region.
And you can sit there and tell the rest of the world “nobody threatens America!”? Well you’ve been doing more than threatening the world for a good few decades now in the guise of world police.
Iran and Syria are within their rights to defend themselves and issue threats, you attack a nation that poses no threat to you and ramp up economic sanctions you damn well bet they’ll want to hurt you.
However not even the most batshit insane person in power these days will commit suicide by nuking a US target. This isn’t a fantasy land where brown people = bad and Captain America flies in to act tough.
Russia has moved its assets into the region, so tell me. How do you feel knowing Russia will defend Syria and Iran? Hows the debt ceiling going? Do you think a protracted crash of economic proportions will play into your hands knowing full well Russia has little to no stake in the outcome of a dollar crash and they have more resources at hand than you do?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
The “Belligerent Iran With Nuclear Weapons” situation is different. I have absolutely no doubt Iran is developing those weapons. I have absolutely no doubt they will end up using them when they do get them, be it against Israel, the US or…Norway either directly or by proxy. I have absolutely no doubt the Iranian regime is a malicious, intrinsically evil, despicably abhorrent bunch of neo Nazis. They are the Klingons of 2013 Planet Earth.
Thus my views on an Iranian intervention may vary significantly from those on Syria.
Now if you happen to feel differently than me, and I’m not saying you do, an Iranian originated terrorist attack with nuclear weapons in oh, let’s say southern California, may very well change your perspective. In that hypothetical, of course, your change of perspective would be too little, too late (and of course I mean “your change of perspective” to be collectively speaking).
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Tell me, Push:
How many nuclear warheads are right now, as we speak, in the hands of our “enemies”?
Do you live in fear of attack by Russia, China, Pakistan and North Korea? We kill Pakistanis with drone strikes every single day. Why hasn’t Pakistan floated a 20 kiloton device into New York harbor concealed in a container full of aircraft parts and detonated it yet? Why hasn’t North Korea done the same in Yokohama?
For that matter, why haven’t a bus load of North Koreans with forged South Korean passports and PADI cards not smuggled scuba tanks full of nerve gas into Los Angeles or Tokyo?
Lack of funding?
The idea never occurred to them? *
Or could it be that anti-American rhetoric is great for the domestic market, but nobody, not even Kim Jong-un, Nawaz Sharif, or Ayatollah Khamenei would be foolish enough to literally make good on their saber-rattling. Unless we give them absolutely no choice, like by dropping bombs on them first. Then whatever they do is justifiable self-defense.
Chasing after every mouse that roars just makes us look like a gigantic pussy…cat.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Don’t have time right now to view the video so tell me if the referenced enemies being portrayed as human beings similar to ourselves are the ordinary Iranian common man or his fascist religious leaders, please.[/quote]
The people who will actually suffer, starve and die if we attack.
I leave it to you to discern which people those are.
Oh, and the Iranians may be the Klingons, but we are the Ferengi.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and the Iranians may be the Klingons, but we are the Ferengi. [/quote]
No.
You lack the 647 rules of commerce.
I doubt “dont kill potential customers” is even in there.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and the Iranians may be the Klingons, but we are the Ferengi. [/quote]
No.
You lack the 647 rules of commerce.
I doubt “dont kill potential customers” is even in there.[/quote]
All right, so we are incompetent Ferengi.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and the Iranians may be the Klingons, but we are the Ferengi. [/quote]
No.
You lack the 647 rules of commerce.
I doubt “dont kill potential customers” is even in there.[/quote]
All right, so we are incompetent Ferengi. [/quote]
Retarded Ferengi.
Without the ears.
So, not even soothing Oo-mox is a possibility.
However, without the rules of aquisition, no Oo-mox for you, also, you will not be able to negotiate in the halls of commerce for a better next life.
Therefore:
May your deals be profitable.
Damn. I have been out-geeked by an Austrian.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Damn. I have been out-geeked by an Austrian. [/quote]
I don’t want to derail or change the subject, but if people don’t trust Obama with war, why do they trust him with healthcare ?
