Why should we force them to pay for someone else’s degree in French Poetry if they DON’T enjoy it?
For law or medical school? You would go to college at what age in that case? 40 or 50?
I think a point many of us are making is that cheaper schools are still overpriced.
But do we need people in that field? Meaning, someone is going to choose it.
The forces that shaped you did.
Show some proof of that. Good luck.
Yes, that is exactly why they are paying him. That isn’t an argument for me or anyone else to pay for his education.
You assume the parents don’t work just because they are poor? How elitist of you.
So in this example Joe is a free loader. He is benefiting from scientific advances that make his loaf of bread cheaper, but does not want to pay to subsidize those advances.
The guy with the education in genetics working on Ag is very likely producing more value than he is being paid. Some of that value flows into the general population. Since we know this happens, does it not make sense to support it. We are likely making dividends on our investment.
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I had $20,000 of my loans repaid while I taught. If I had lasted 10 years they all would have been paid.
Why should they pay for services to the blind if they can see? Why should they pay taxes that go to public schools if they don’t have kids? Why should they pay for someone else to go kill someone in another country who they don’t have a problem with?
Joe is doing his part for society as well. When the scientists toilet backs up, is he going to reimburse Joe for the trade school he went to? Of course not.
Then he should value himself better and either find work elsewhere or start his own company. That’s how the system works.
You forgot to mention you need to make 10 years of payments (120 payments) to qualify and they all need to be made on time.
Let me correct that. They aren’t paying taxes.
The individuals that have advanced society the furthest have almost always been compensated a small fraction of the value they produced. Tesla’s inventions were / are worth trillions of dollars. He died broke. We all benefited greatly from it.
Could paying for student loans and additionally making college less expensive using tax payers dollars be seen as an investment? I don’t think it is just a tax payer giveaway.
Charging 500 dollars to unclog a toilet is more than enough reimbursement. What Joe needs to worry about is the scientist learning how to unclog a toilet which is far more likely than Joe learning about genetics.
It really isn’t once Monsanto decides to tell its government shills to crush you.
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Well, those poetry hating farmers are getting… government subsidies.
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And everything to do with meeting Title IX requirements lazily.
It’s weird to bring up a very highly subsidized sector when talking about benefits. Farmers grow all sorts of things I don’t eat should I have to pay for the subsidies for them? Billions of subsides received why do I have to pay for it?
FWIW I’m not against farm subsidies if needed but just using it to make a larger point. I’m from a rural area and one of my best friends is a farmer so I’m not trying to come off anti farmer.
Ethanol subsidies should go away.
I think some subsidies make sense and others don’t. I think subsidizing education makes a lot of sense. To what degree is where most people differ.
Yep, personal debt used to be forgiven all the time. It was called a clean slate. In the bible it is called the Jubilee Year. Read Michael Hudson’s book And Forgive Them of Their Debts.
And people used to be slaves. Should all descendants of slaves have to go thru the same things as there forefathers had to?
People in America are sold on the idea of going to college and getting a degree is going to lead to a better life. And colleges keep raising their tuition. So the public is trapped.
Like me. I had to be poor for quite some time to pay off those loans but I see no legitimate reason others should have to go thru the same.
This is a complicated subject encased in greed and corruption. The easy response for a politician is just throw some money at it so you can say you did something to address it without really addressing the problem. Higher education (in general) is a business selling education, just like Hospitals (in general) are a business selling medical care.
If we don’t let the left put the money in the pockets of citizens, the right will figure out a way to put it into the profits of corporations.
An FJG is better.