My penis shrank, but since it was already getting close to 10 inches fully erect, she didn’t really mind. In fact sex is now pleasurable and not painful for her.
I keed, I keed.
Your answers have been posted. Good luck and ask if you have anymore questions.
Hey guy,
Let me tell you what I have experienced in my very limited time using “gear.” These are completely non-scientific, anecdotal observations.
-There has been absolutely no shrinkage of my member.
-My libido is exponentially higher and I jump out of the truck trying to hide my wood 50% of the time. Great for public image!
-I am strangely attracted to everything. Including wall sockets, Empty Mag-Lites, questionable women, pies, fruits, etc. You get the picture. 
-Balls have atrophied ever so slightly.
-Deca gave me a bi-polar dick…It would sometimes get moody mid-session but could be remedied by the lovely lady in no time.
-Without Deca in the picture, your member will be that of a trident. Powerful and true…Sans the triple-prongs.
-Roid rage is a farce. You will be more manly due to increased test levels, and therefore more confident and etc. This can be perceived as a personality change but you won’t likely be a loose cannon. If you’re a nice guy, you’re fine. If you’re an asshole, you’ll be a bigger asshole.
There ya have it. Some first hand, straight-up experiences. There is a lot of bad associated with it but for me, the positives are much greater than the negatives. Research and find out for yourself. Whatever you do, don’t let the gear interfere with your relationship - I’ve watched it a few times and it just isn’t worth it.
-Patrick
PS - Most negative issues with juice are a result of poor education, misuse, and abuse. Read and gain knowledge, then act.
[quote] Brook wrote:
Lets be real here - there is some truth to reduced libido… it is due to a few factors;
Lowered endo test with no exo androgen/dht replacement. So for this purpose Test, Masteron and proviron will all serve as good libido enhancers/maintainers.
Poor recovery: So this effects many of us after a while… the more you use, the longer it takes to recover. One cycle wont do shit - and i can FAIRLY safely say that your libido wont take much of a hit from one, moderate, regular cycle (unless your genes dictate so). You’ll be recovered in 2-4 weeks with Nolvadex IME and IMO.
But if one stays on for a matter of years, or doesnt allow the endo test to kick into production between cycles, then natural libido will be low/non-existent. This is simply about a waiting game - even guys who have been on massive doses for 10 years can recover. Eventually. But there WILL be some times or periods with reduced sex drive.
So, the more you use, even if you cycle the use, then with the repeating of the suppression of the HPTA, then recovery, then suppression, then recovery - etc etc… you will find that recovery becomes more and more elusive… taking longer than the time you want to have off cycle… so the suppression ends up being through the cycle AND the off periods too…
Some guys can cycle and recover very easily and never have much of an issue… the majority do end up with extended suppression after a few years of cycling and would need a good 3-6 months off to recover…
Some guys get shut down hard, for good… or may as well be for good, as it takes so long to recover.
There is NO way to know this until you do it! I personally fall in the middle group, but as my first couple cycles were as an uneducated 18-19 year old, and intermittently until just a couple years ago, i caused some ‘damage’.
But this works in the other way too… if one is older when they start - say late 30’s or 40’s, then IMO it is highly likely to result in TRT.
This all is just my personal experience and from the many accounts of other users i have spoken to.
There are some exceptions of course - but that is the full truth as i know it.
In conclusion, it will probably result in periods of suppression - between the last shot and the start up of HPTA function. For a newb this may be a week, or for others it can be as much as 6 months - depending on age, genes, cycles, length of time on… etc…
With the mean length of time around a month it seems.
I and many other guys who use are honest with their wives and partners and try to include them to a degree too. Be open about periods of necessary suppression… and make up for it when possible.
Hope this helps, if anyone things i have overstated or understated this, or missed something - feel free.
Brook[/quote]
I thought that your post was interesting, but I don’t get all of your abbreviations TRT, HPTA, etc.
[quote]hangiron wrote:
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I also find it hard to believe that I am the only person who is married and or in a serious relationship who has this problem.
Oh yeah, she is also worried about me turning into a wife beater filled with roid rage,lol.
the only problem i had with my wife was me hiding it from her…
your on the right path be honest with your wife it will save you a lot of shit “trust me on this one”
maybe its not a good idea to be so honest with “her and her friends” its really none of cindy’s business now is it!
[/quote]
When you bring something like this up with your wife, she will inevitably discuss it with their friends. Especially since mine has a big mouth,lol.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
Brook wrote:
Lets be real here - there is some truth to reduced libido… it is due to a few factors;
Lowered endo test with no exo androgen/dht replacement. So for this purpose Test, Masteron and proviron will all serve as good libido enhancers/maintainers.
Poor recovery: So this effects many of us after a while… the more you use, the longer it takes to recover. One cycle wont do shit - and i can FAIRLY safely say that your libido wont take much of a hit from one, moderate, regular cycle (unless your genes dictate so). You’ll be recovered in 2-4 weeks with Nolvadex IME and IMO.
But if one stays on for a matter of years, or doesnt allow the endo test to kick into production between cycles, then natural libido will be low/non-existent. This is simply about a waiting game - even guys who have been on massive doses for 10 years can recover. Eventually. But there WILL be some times or periods with reduced sex drive.
So, the more you use, even if you cycle the use, then with the repeating of the suppression of the HPTA, then recovery, then suppression, then recovery - etc etc… you will find that recovery becomes more and more elusive… taking longer than the time you want to have off cycle… so the suppression ends up being through the cycle AND the off periods too…
Some guys can cycle and recover very easily and never have much of an issue… the majority do end up with extended suppression after a few years of cycling and would need a good 3-6 months off to recover…
Some guys get shut down hard, for good… or may as well be for good, as it takes so long to recover.
There is NO way to know this until you do it! I personally fall in the middle group, but as my first couple cycles were as an uneducated 18-19 year old, and intermittently until just a couple years ago, i caused some ‘damage’.
But this works in the other way too… if one is older when they start - say late 30’s or 40’s, then IMO it is highly likely to result in TRT.
This all is just my personal experience and from the many accounts of other users i have spoken to.
There are some exceptions of course - but that is the full truth as i know it.
In conclusion, it will probably result in periods of suppression - between the last shot and the start up of HPTA function. For a newb this may be a week, or for others it can be as much as 6 months - depending on age, genes, cycles, length of time on… etc…
With the mean length of time around a month it seems.
I and many other guys who use are honest with their wives and partners and try to include them to a degree too. Be open about periods of necessary suppression… and make up for it when possible.
Hope this helps, if anyone things i have overstated or understated this, or missed something - feel free.
Brook
I thought that your post was interesting, but I don’t get all of your abbreviations TRT, HPTA, etc.[/quote]
DHT - Dihydrotestosterone (The androgenic component of testosterone)
IME - In my experience
IMO - in my opinion
ENDO - Endogenous (naturally occuring inside the body)
HPTA - Hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular axis (the parts of the brain and balls where men are men, and sheep are scared)
TRT - Testosterone Replacement therapy
ETC -Etcetera 
For what’s it’s worth, the old lady seems to be opening up her mind to the idea of me running a few cycles.
But I ran the idea by a friend of mine who has done many cycles and here is what he told me:
That when he juiced, he sometimes suffered from insomnia, night sweats and panic attacks. Once he claims that he had such a bad panic attack that he actually checked himself into a hospital. He is also under the impression that they both temporarily and permanently raised his blood pressure. What do you guys think about that?
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
For what’s it’s worth, the old lady seems to be opening up her mind to the idea of me running a few cycles.
But I ran the idea by a friend of mine who has done many cycles and here is what he told me:
That when he juiced, he sometimes suffered from insomnia, night sweats and panic attacks. Once he claims that he had such a bad panic attack that he actually checked himself into a hospital. He is also under the impression that they both temporarily and permanently raised his blood pressure. What do you guys think about that? [/quote]
I would ask what your friend was running. Sounds like side effects from trenbolone (first two) and equipoise (anxiety has been cited as one of eq occasional sides). I’ve never heard of any such sides off of a basic test or test/dbol cycle (which well net you some wonderful gains your first time around). Also both of these are not really “first timer” compounds, so you shouldn’t have to worry about them anyway.
Now to the other thing: permanently raised blood pressure sounds pretty ridiculous, don’t you think?
[quote]Cortes wrote:
I would ask what your friend was running. Sounds like side effects from trenbolone (first two) and equipoise (anxiety has been cited as one of eq occasional sides). I’ve never heard of any such sides off of a basic test or test/dbol cycle (which well net you some wonderful gains your first time around). Also both of these are not really “first timer” compounds, so you shouldn’t have to worry about them anyway.
Now to the other thing: permanently raised blood pressure sounds pretty ridiculous, don’t you think?[/quote]
I think that it sounds ridiculous too, but he seems to think that somehow it might have put something in his arteries. As for what he was running, I could find out the name, but I get the impression that this was a back alley/gym type deal mystery drug labeled as a ubiquitious “horse steroid” with some Russian writing on it.
Equipoise was originally formulated for horses.
I don’t know anything about it causing the other sides, however.
My libido definitely increased at 250mg/test/E3D - popped wood all the time, and could “rebound” after sex much faster. note: too much test in your system will convert, and that can act AGAINST being able to raise the mast. that’s puts you in the weird predicament of being horny and not being able to do much about it. just monitor it well (AI) and you’ll enjoy it.
My libido definitely increased at 250mg/test/E3D - popped wood all the time, and could “rebound” after sex much faster. note: too much test in your system will convert, and that can act AGAINST being able to raise the mast. that’s puts you in the weird predicament of being horny and not being able to do much about it. just monitor it well (AI) and you’ll enjoy it.
My libido definitely increased at 250mg/test/E3D - popped wood all the time, and could “rebound” after sex much faster. note: too much test in your system will convert, and that can act AGAINST being able to raise the mast. that’s puts you in the weird predicament of being horny and not being able to do much about it. just monitor it well (AI) and you’ll enjoy it.
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
Your friends apparently believe every last piece of garbage they read, without doing any independant fact finding. Ask them if they believe that Elvis is alive.[/quote]
Hey shut up.
Elvis is soo alive.