Son's Stinky Friend

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Grumpig Hunt wrote:
Take them to the swimming pool, see if he leaves a slick on the top of the water or if he smells socially acceptable afterwards. Or get the wife to take them, whilst you maintain distance and hold your breath.[/quote]

I was going to write a real reponse, to this thread, but damnit I’m laughing pretty hard at the ‘slick on the water’ visual. After that, I’ve got nothing.

(sucks that it’s a little kid, makes any option rough)

S[/quote]

I was half-serious with the suggestion - you’d be able to tell if it were his clothes, and if he didn’t stink afterwards (well, any worse than chlorine) it is more likely a personal hygiene problem.

But then I realised you would have to be surreptitiously trying to sniff an 11-year old boy, which is weird. Scratch that idea.

As a teenager, my friend came over to hang out.
Our flat was situated way up on a hill. So when the doorbell rang, he stood there, panting and sweating. And since his parents had this peculiar way of cooking, he sweat stank bad.

My mother gave him a washing cloth and pointed him towards the bathroom.

Happy, non-smelling end!

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Doesn’t your son realize he smells like shit? Don’t his classmates and the other neighborhood kids realize he smells like shit?

Because when I was a kid, and I’m sure the same can be said for most people here, a kid who smelled that bad would have been ostracized to the point where no one would have hung out with him. Is this not what’s going on with your son and this little stinker?[/quote]

Eventually this is what happens to the odd kid. And age 11 is right around the turning point. I went to school with a kid that was raised in a cigarette-stink of a house, plus his mother washed his clothes in the same water for days (wringer washer in damp basement). He smelled bad and had tons of blackheads on his visible body parts.

This other kid I knew smelled too, he was the fat kid in my class(remember when a class of 450 kids had just ONE fat kid in it?). Every summer he went to a weight-loss camp and came back to school slim wearing new clothes. By November, he was back in the sweater and pants he wore for the rest of the school year.

With my kids, they hung out with some really weird kids, behavioral issues and it turns out that the parents were the whack-jobs. So I’d say this is where the smelly kid originates from. One kid my oldest son knew, the father was supposed to be some sort of secret-agent, which was a BS story. The father himself brought it up to me when he came to get his kid at my house one day. Turns out he was some debt-ridden day trader who was in the process of being dumped by his wife.

Rob[/quote]

Some very good points that I hadn’t thought of.

There was a large family near me when I was a kid that all were dirty and covered in acne. They weren’t totally ostracized but didn’t have many friends either. Everyone just thought they were poor and had bad hygiene. It wasn’t until talking to one of them recently that I found out the dad was a real bastard that would beat them for wasting water if they bathed more than once a week.

Poor kids, to go through childhood knowing why the other kids didn’t associate with you but not having it in your power to change it.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Doesn’t your son realize he smells like shit? Don’t his classmates and the other neighborhood kids realize he smells like shit?

Because when I was a kid, and I’m sure the same can be said for most people here, a kid who smelled that bad would have been ostracized to the point where no one would have hung out with him. Is this not what’s going on with your son and this little stinker?[/quote]

Eventually this is what happens to the odd kid. And age 11 is right around the turning point. I went to school with a kid that was raised in a cigarette-stink of a house, plus his mother washed his clothes in the same water for days (wringer washer in damp basement). He smelled bad and had tons of blackheads on his visible body parts.

This other kid I knew smelled too, he was the fat kid in my class(remember when a class of 450 kids had just ONE fat kid in it?). Every summer he went to a weight-loss camp and came back to school slim wearing new clothes. By November, he was back in the sweater and pants he wore for the rest of the school year.

With my kids, they hung out with some really weird kids, behavioral issues and it turns out that the parents were the whack-jobs. So I’d say this is where the smelly kid originates from. One kid my oldest son knew, the father was supposed to be some sort of secret-agent, which was a BS story. The father himself brought it up to me when he came to get his kid at my house one day. Turns out he was some debt-ridden day trader who was in the process of being dumped by his wife.

Rob[/quote]

Some very good points that I hadn’t thought of.

There was a large family near me when I was a kid that all were dirty and covered in acne. They weren’t totally ostracized but didn’t have many friends either. Everyone just thought they were poor and had bad hygiene. It wasn’t until talking to one of them recently that I found out the dad was a real bastard that would beat them for wasting water if they bathed more than once a week.

Poor kids, to go through childhood knowing why the other kids didn’t associate with you but not having it in your power to change it.
[/quote]

Some families are really twisted. One kid up the block, his dad came home from work every day at 5, like clockwork, he had his belt off and was beating their hides at 5:05. We used to hang out on the corner and listen for the crack of the belt, srs. The kids were scumbags anyway, but it was the upbringing.

Another one I knew, totally transient, they would get evicted and move elsewhere in town. On payday, the mother had to intercept the old man at the bars before he drank up his paycheck.

I hear stories my kids tell me about kids they know. One, no set meal times. They just hit the icebox when they’re hungry, totally dysfunctional. Another, the mother is at the gym 7 days a week, she looks buff but the kids got no clean clothes to wear and the house looks like a bomb went off in it.

Rob

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Doesn’t your son realize he smells like shit? Don’t his classmates and the other neighborhood kids realize he smells like shit?

Because when I was a kid, and I’m sure the same can be said for most people here, a kid who smelled that bad would have been ostracized to the point where no one would have hung out with him. Is this not what’s going on with your son and this little stinker?[/quote]

Eventually this is what happens to the odd kid. And age 11 is right around the turning point. I went to school with a kid that was raised in a cigarette-stink of a house, plus his mother washed his clothes in the same water for days (wringer washer in damp basement). He smelled bad and had tons of blackheads on his visible body parts.

This other kid I knew smelled too, he was the fat kid in my class(remember when a class of 450 kids had just ONE fat kid in it?). Every summer he went to a weight-loss camp and came back to school slim wearing new clothes. By November, he was back in the sweater and pants he wore for the rest of the school year.

With my kids, they hung out with some really weird kids, behavioral issues and it turns out that the parents were the whack-jobs. So I’d say this is where the smelly kid originates from. One kid my oldest son knew, the father was supposed to be some sort of secret-agent, which was a BS story. The father himself brought it up to me when he came to get his kid at my house one day. Turns out he was some debt-ridden day trader who was in the process of being dumped by his wife.

Rob[/quote]

Some very good points that I hadn’t thought of.

There was a large family near me when I was a kid that all were dirty and covered in acne. They weren’t totally ostracized but didn’t have many friends either. Everyone just thought they were poor and had bad hygiene. It wasn’t until talking to one of them recently that I found out the dad was a real bastard that would beat them for wasting water if they bathed more than once a week.

Poor kids, to go through childhood knowing why the other kids didn’t associate with you but not having it in your power to change it.
[/quote]

Some families are really twisted. One kid up the block, his dad came home from work every day at 5, like clockwork, he had his belt off and was beating their hides at 5:05. We used to hang out on the corner and listen for the crack of the belt, srs. The kids were scumbags anyway, but it was the upbringing.

Another one I knew, totally transient, they would get evicted and move elsewhere in town. On payday, the mother had to intercept the old man at the bars before he drank up his paycheck.

I hear stories my kids tell me about kids they know. One, no set meal times. They just hit the icebox when they’re hungry, totally dysfunctional. Another, the mother is at the gym 7 days a week, she looks buff but the kids got no clean clothes to wear and the house looks like a bomb went off in it.

Rob[/quote]

I used to deliver pizza in my early twenties.

Sometimes they would open the doors and I would just know that those kids were fucked.

Had not even started yet, fucked nonetheless.

This reminds me of my brothers friend who would come over and eventually use the toilet at some point…kid is heavy set, and eats anything he can get his hands on…I had to use some vicks under my nose and open up all the windows and the smell was still there when I woke up the next morning! My dad had no problem telling him to go home to use the bathroom though…

man…I can smell it just thinking about it…it’s horrible /cry

and on a side note, I used to smell somewhat as a kid until I cleaned my diet up. God forbid my shoes started to smell, I just tossed them as they had no hope of recovery!

The kid comes from a good home. Mom & Dad look normal, they are attentive and involved. He has a sister who seems pretty normal. I think this kids physiology is just fucked.

Never the less, I’ve decided the best course of action is to start by talking to the kid because if it is just hygiene I don’t want to make more out of it than it is. I’m going to explain to him he’s at an age now where he needs to take a shower every day, use deodorant and wear fresh clothes. If that doesn’t work I’ll take the next step of talking to his parents about it.

Hey, btw, does anyone else have trouble being compassionate to kids when they get hurt? Stinky was over yesterday and I thought I was going to have a chance to have the talk with him but he wiped out on his bike in my driveway. He starts crying and I’m thinking 'oh gawd don’t fucking cry". Then he fucking starts howling, fml. I swear if a kid is over 8 I don’t want to hear them cry when they get hurt. Even when my 3 year old daughter gets hurt I’m usually saying quit crying, it’s not that bad that bad. I do admit though, If they are not my kid I’m significantly less compassionate about it.

I did fake it enough yesterday to walk stinky home after his crash. He was sobbing the whole way.

[quote]on edge wrote:

Hey, btw, does anyone else have trouble being compassionate to kids when they get hurt? Stinky was over yesterday and I thought I was going to have a chance to have the talk with him but he wiped out on his bike in my driveway. He starts crying and I’m thinking 'oh gawd don’t fucking cry". Then he fucking starts howling, fml. I swear if a kid is over 8 I don’t want to hear them cry when they get hurt. Even when my 3 year old daughter gets hurt I’m usually saying quit crying, it’s not that bad that bad. I do admit though, If they are not my kid I’m significantly less compassionate about it.

I did fake it enough yesterday to walk stinky home after his crash. He was sobbing the whole way.[/quote]

I’m ok when the kids are actually hurt, but I have to stop myself from being a raging asshole when kids start crying out of disappointment, or anger, or frustration. It just triggers something in me.

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Doesn’t your son realize he smells like shit? Don’t his classmates and the other neighborhood kids realize he smells like shit?

Because when I was a kid, and I’m sure the same can be said for most people here, a kid who smelled that bad would have been ostracized to the point where no one would have hung out with him. Is this not what’s going on with your son and this little stinker?[/quote]

Eventually this is what happens to the odd kid. And age 11 is right around the turning point. I went to school with a kid that was raised in a cigarette-stink of a house, plus his mother washed his clothes in the same water for days (wringer washer in damp basement). He smelled bad and had tons of blackheads on his visible body parts.

This other kid I knew smelled too, he was the fat kid in my class(remember when a class of 450 kids had just ONE fat kid in it?). Every summer he went to a weight-loss camp and came back to school slim wearing new clothes. By November, he was back in the sweater and pants he wore for the rest of the school year.

With my kids, they hung out with some really weird kids, behavioral issues and it turns out that the parents were the whack-jobs. So I’d say this is where the smelly kid originates from. One kid my oldest son knew, the father was supposed to be some sort of secret-agent, which was a BS story. The father himself brought it up to me when he came to get his kid at my house one day. Turns out he was some debt-ridden day trader who was in the process of being dumped by his wife.

Rob[/quote]

Some very good points that I hadn’t thought of.

There was a large family near me when I was a kid that all were dirty and covered in acne. They weren’t totally ostracized but didn’t have many friends either. Everyone just thought they were poor and had bad hygiene. It wasn’t until talking to one of them recently that I found out the dad was a real bastard that would beat them for wasting water if they bathed more than once a week.

Poor kids, to go through childhood knowing why the other kids didn’t associate with you but not having it in your power to change it.
[/quote]

Some families are really twisted. One kid up the block, his dad came home from work every day at 5, like clockwork, he had his belt off and was beating their hides at 5:05. We used to hang out on the corner and listen for the crack of the belt, srs. The kids were scumbags anyway, but it was the upbringing.

Another one I knew, totally transient, they would get evicted and move elsewhere in town. On payday, the mother had to intercept the old man at the bars before he drank up his paycheck.

I hear stories my kids tell me about kids they know. One, no set meal times. They just hit the icebox when they’re hungry, totally dysfunctional. Another, the mother is at the gym 7 days a week, she looks buff but the kids got no clean clothes to wear and the house looks like a bomb went off in it.

Rob[/quote]

Played ball with a kid like this. Mom didn’t pay the bills and they hardly ever had running water. Our coach would show up early and open the gym so that he could shower before school. Let him do some laundry in the team washer. Last time I talked to him the guy was doing alright for himself.

I wonder how much the misery bestowed upon kids by their parents cost the worlds economy. Your brain gets screwed up and you dont really become a productive person unless some big changes occur.

Another update!

I hate to say it but you guys saying “problems at home” may have been right. The parents did get a divorce about a year ago. My son also told me that in the basement rec room there are a bunch of baseball size holes in the wall. I’m sure you guys will draw the same conclusion that I did on that.

The funny thing about this, and why I didn’t continue with the topic (and probably shouldn’t now) is after I posted it the kid never smelled again for months… and the mom happens to be REALLY fit… I’ll let you guys draw your own conclusion on that one too.

Hi Marcia!

Hmm, maybe I should rethink sipping Dry Fly while posting.