that’s what im looking to do. Is to dial in something that is tolerable and stable… may not be completely optimal but just something I can show good numbers and then dial in further knowing I can come back to baseline.
Based on the labs you presented, I dont see anywhere that you’ve had high E2. Just stop the adex and keep your Test where its at and be aware of signs but dont freak out and jump on a ton of adex.
What were your high e2 symptoms?
hurts to sleep on my stomach
and lumps developing. I’ve always been ultra sensitive to estrogen, just realized I’ve been crushing it to hard for the past years.
I was told this was happening because I crushed my E2 levels so low for so long many of the receptors were no longer there. Making my body respond like I had high E2 but it was just higher than its been in a long time. So I dropped the AI for 4 weeks. Needed time to build up receptors which is why I took the SERM and let estrogen get to 34.
I did stop the adex for 4 weeks which is how my last report got to 34… which I was told was a little higher than what the doc wanted to see based on my test levels. He then encouraged I tried .25 of adex 24hours of injection. I told him for the past 3 days I wasn’t feeling as good and libido suffered even worse… that’s why the AI was reintroduced at a low level 1x a week.
the goal is to get 22-28 and play with that range before exploring higher… and to stay stable there for a while… is that not a good plan?
Well, like we are all saying, that number is a fallacy. My E2 is 127 and my libido and erections are great. Your ratios are still very low and your symptoms may be low E2 and not rising E2. Other shit affects libido too. What other panels have you had done? Prolactin for example or DHT?
I’ve done full panels everything checks out
So your at a 6.75% ratio… is there a ratio number to strive for?
Mine would be 3.11%
Do you worry about stroke or other complications with such a high estrogen?
Nope. and I’m not sure where you are getting your info.
Please go read this thread
Well I guess if I don’t feel better in 48hours when AI peaks then I’ll just let the estrogen keep going up by ditching it again for a couple weeks.
I think it could take longer than that. Also consider what we talked about pinning 2x weekly to keep Test levels stable. Are you lean or “adipose challenged” ? Fat cells are much more likely to increase aromatization of Test. Ask you Dr for an off label script for Nolvadex.
I am lean, very lean. Was 118lbs when I started my working out journey.
I would prefer raloxifene - which I am taking.
nolva kills my libido, feel like shit, and cry like a girl.
ill see if they will start letting me do my injections… I’ve done my own for years lol but don’t mind just going in.
If you do, some members here are big advocates of sub-Q shots using insulin needles. Supposed to be better for slow release. I’ve tried it and didnt like it but you might.