WARNING: THE VIDEO THIS LINK WILL TAKE YOU TO DOES SHOW THE DEATH OF A MAN.
Be aware the site I found this on does have adds near the video that would not be acceptable in a work environment.
I thought I was going to see a huge conan teh barbarian type pocket knife, with viscious Mark McGuire type swings. What I saw would not even really be considered a fight. And still in the end a man got stabbed to death. I have trouble seeing when it happened and who did it. This video is freaking crazy, everyone was oblivious to the fact anyone was getting stabbed except the attacker.
The guy in what looks like a striped rugby polo started stabbing him @ 0:44 in. He was stabbing the guy with a icepick grip…looks like he’s just swinging hammerfists and seems everyone else is oblivious to it. I’m assuming it’s dark…so I could see how that would be possible to miss in the midst of what was going on.
Goes to show how quick shit hits the fan in those situations…distance…distance. Arguing with people is a waste of time in itself…even before situations get violent.
I’ve said it before on here. Walk the fuck away from everything. If you really genuinely can’t, then fight to put the other guy in the ground. Everything else is the kind of half-arsed amateur shit that will get you killed, like in the link above. Recognise your situation, identify means of escape, do everything you can to avoid confrontation, no half measures - escalate first if you can’t escape, dont worry about the other guy, worry about what you need to do to survive the situation. Advice unanimously given to me by a group of my brother’s mates, who are/were SAS soldiers. If it is what the real tough guys do, the rest of us would do well to imitate it!
Ok, I see what you are saying BigBoss. I am just amazed no one notices until the guy hits the ground.
On the flip side lets say you are in the group that walked away, then your buddy tells you he just stabbed some guy to death over that lame ass argument. I would be so pissed, he just turned a stupid who can yell and sound more manly fight into a murder charge. You are then an accomplice, goes to show you need to know who you are rolling with. This one stab happy dumb ass just killed one man and may have ruined several other people’s lives.
[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
I’ve said it before on here. Walk the fuck away from everything. If you really genuinely can’t, then fight to put the other guy in the ground. Everything else is the kind of half-arsed amateur shit that will get you killed, like in the link above. Recognise your situation, identify means of escape, do everything you can to avoid confrontation, no half measures - escalate first if you can’t escape, dont worry about the other guy, worry about what you need to do to survive the situation. Advice unanimously given to me by a group of my brother’s mates, who are/were SAS soldiers. If it is what the real tough guys do, the rest of us would do well to imitate it![/quote]
I have a couple of mates doing the SF thing, and one of the interesting things about them is that they aren’t much to look at, they dont tend to look like big strong guys by and large. I’d still back any one of them in an altercation though. These guys just have a way of winning.
All SF operators have a almost unbreakable will to survive and complete the mission. The massive mental toughness is something that each must have, but hard to explain to a civilian, who has limited or no training. The absolute will to survive, to kill anything, by any means, that gets in your way to complete the objective, is why they always seem to win.
[quote]idaho wrote:
“These guys just have a way of winning”
All SF operators have a almost unbreakable will to survive and complete the mission. The massive mental toughness is something that each must have, but hard to explain to a civilian, who has limited or no training. The absolute will to survive, to kill anything, by any means, that gets in your way to complete the objective, is why they always seem to win. [/quote]
Without actually going into SF, how can you develop that mental toughness?
[quote]H1989S wrote:
I have a couple of mates doing the SF thing, and one of the interesting things about them is that they aren’t much to look at, they dont tend to look like big strong guys by and large. I’d still back any one of them in an altercation though. These guys just have a way of winning.[/quote]
I read this comment that a guy on Marc Macyoung’s facebook wall wrote, and thought it applied here:
“Well, I practice MA for the fun of it, not get better at street fighting, which I consider just about the same as car accidents. I don’t want to be good at making car accidents, I want to be good at being miles and miles away from them. I’d rather be taught how NOT to get into a fight than how to win one, for the latter will hardly make my life better and actually could make it worse, although not as bad as getting into one and losing.”
I love the idea of comparing “getting into a fight” to “getting into a car accident.”
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I read this comment that a guy on Marc Macyoung’s facebook wall wrote, and thought it applied here:
“Well, I practice MA for the fun of it, not get better at street fighting, which I consider just about the same as car accidents. I don’t want to be good at making car accidents, I want to be good at being miles and miles away from them. I’d rather be taught how NOT to get into a fight than how to win one, for the latter will hardly make my life better and actually could make it worse, although not as bad as getting into one and losing.”
I love the idea of comparing “getting into a fight” to “getting into a car accident.”
So, so true.[/quote]
Right on, prevention is the best cure.
But, I would argue that if the MA is specifically geared towards real world “worst case scenarios”, that it will at least make surviving the “crash” more likely.
Just because I drive cautiously and look to avoid accidents doesn’t mean I don’t wear my seat belt, take my care for tune-ups/saftey inspections, and carry emergency supplies in preparation for a possible accident finding me.
[quote]H1989S wrote:
I have a couple of mates doing the SF thing, and one of the interesting things about them is that they aren’t much to look at, they dont tend to look like big strong guys by and large. I’d still back any one of them in an altercation though. These guys just have a way of winning.[/quote]
I wouldn’t back anyone “doing the SF thing” per say. I dunno…just seems to imply that your mates tend to “find” altercations. Yeah…if something was to truly happen and my friends found themselves in trouble…hell yeah…I assist them in being safe. But I be damned if anyone in my group put me in situation that was a result of their own ignorance,stupidity,etc in first place. I’d whoop their ass myself after the dust had settled.
Not judging you or your mates…but “doing the SF thing” just sounded strange. shrug[/quote]
I think you might have misunderstood his post mate. The way I read it, backing SF guys doesnt mean they go looking for trouble, i think the poster meant that he would fancy their chances in a given situation, as they would likely have seen it coming before anyone else and decided on a course of action.
I have spent a decent amount of time with special forces lads, as well as having some family members who have served. In my experience, I would expect them to win in any given situation. These guys specialise in stacking the odds in their favour, in extremely hostile environments. Really that is the key in any streetfight too. Stacking the odds in your favour can simply mean that you aren’t there when the group of drunken idiots who have been looking for trouble decide to kick off. Or it can mean using surroundings/weapons to neutralise superior numbers/size. Either way, you can bet that they have worked out what they are going to do to win, and they will also be confident of being able to carry out whatever they feel they need to do.
And x 2 to whoever said it was innate. You don’t have to be SF to have the mindset, and you can hone it if you do have the raw goods, but if you don’t, nothing you ever do will get you to that point
[quote]H1989S wrote:
I have a couple of mates doing the SF thing, and one of the interesting things about them is that they aren’t much to look at, they dont tend to look like big strong guys by and large. I’d still back any one of them in an altercation though. These guys just have a way of winning.[/quote]
I wouldn’t back anyone “doing the SF thing” per say. I dunno…just seems to imply that your mates tend to “find” altercations. Yeah…if something was to truly happen and my friends found themselves in trouble…hell yeah…I assist them in being safe. But I be damned if anyone in my group put me in situation that was a result of their own ignorance,stupidity,etc in first place. I’d whoop their ass myself after the dust had settled.
Not judging you or your mates…but “doing the SF thing” just sounded strange. shrug[/quote]
I think you might have misunderstood his post mate. The way I read it, backing SF guys doesnt mean they go looking for trouble, i think the poster meant that he would fancy their chances in a given situation, as they would likely have seen it coming before anyone else and decided on a course of action.
I have spent a decent amount of time with special forces lads, as well as having some family members who have served. In my experience, I would expect them to win in any given situation. These guys specialise in stacking the odds in their favour, in extremely hostile environments. Really that is the key in any streetfight too. Stacking the odds in your favour can simply mean that you aren’t there when the group of drunken idiots who have been looking for trouble decide to kick off. Or it can mean using surroundings/weapons to neutralise superior numbers/size. Either way, you can bet that they have worked out what they are going to do to win, and they will also be confident of being able to carry out whatever they feel they need to do.
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Actually I did misread his post…and in a more simplistic way…lol. Carry on…carry on . I still will agree with what you have stated in response to my fuck up. I live in a military town…and work/train at mma school. We had the privilege of training a group of SF guys…and man…I think we learn more from them in terms of attitude/mindset.
