Is this YOUR God? Meaning you can make up things as you go along.
You asked ME.
Like the made up concept that everyone must sell wedding cakes to everyone or someones rights are being ignored?
Does it matter? And no, they specifically sought this one out to persecute them. That is not tolerant.
Not for everyone if it goes against his religion. Would you force a jewish baker to bake a nazi cake?
That makes zero sense.
A gay couple orders a cake that suspiciously looks like a wedding cake. They even picked it out of a catalog of…wedding cakes. You overhear them talking about their wedding. But still, they don’t say that this is a cake for that wedding probably because it should be obvious that it is a wedding cake. At one point do your Christian sensibilities kick in?
I don’t know if you have ever gotten married and picked out a wedding cake but it is rather hard to avoid actually saying it is a wedding cake.
A concept not based on a sky fairy. There is a difference.
Nazis are not a protected class so that is a terrible argument.
Who defines what ownership means? Some natural law? Yes, mother nature made some island so one day human beings could claim it as their own.
We have a nation that people have died to protect. We all benefit from the sacrifices of a few. If the price we pay for that benefit is to not treat other citizens, who may have descended from people who made that sacrifice or whose descendants may make that sacrifice, as equals then so be it.
I don’t understand your confusion. If I know it’s a wedding cake, I don’t sell it. Like I wouldn’t sell a knife and duct tape to a couple I overheard talking kidnapping. Is it a wedding cake or for a wedding? Is it for cutting meat and/or repair work?
How would you not know? You are the one saying you would sell the cake if you didn’t know what it was for.
Because a kidnapping and a gay wedding are interchangeable events.
Uhhhh, what?
Didn’t say they were interchangeable. You missed the point. I am not guilty of the crime of kidnapping if products from my hardware store are used in the commission of kidnapping, if I had no reason to believe they would be used for such a thing. This is no different with a cake. If they take it home and dress it up with pride flags, when I didn’t know the intent…That is out of my hands. This is too easy.
You made the analogy. Is it OK if I change interchangeable to analogous?
See above.
How would you not know the intent? Do you put up a sign that reads, “don’t tell me what your cake is for,”?
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Answer the question.
How about a gay couple wants a Nazi cake for their wedding. Can a jewish baker refuse service or do you sympathize with him so that’s ok to refuse service now? Where’s the line where service can be turned down exactly? The baker wasn’t refusing to sell them a cake, just not a specific one. Same would apply here so you’re telling me the jewish baker has to make the cake?
The people who paid money to own their own business.
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Anyone can refuse service. Nazis are not a protected class and bakers do not have to write political statements. This has already been dealt with by the law so the answers are out there.
That is incorrect. The concept of ownership is decided by society.
Umm, because they didn’t tell me…it wouldn’t be used for a homosexual wedding…Like I don’t have hardware customers fill out an intent statement for duct tape…
I’m ok with Sanders being kicked out, too BTW. Thought they we’re asses about it but that’s their choice.
I think both instances are stupid but they should be free to make that choice.
Just like I don’t question another person’s motives for buying a belt which is later used to strangle someone with. But, if I suspect or become aware…
This really isn’t difficult.
If someone buys a hammer and nails you can assume what they are using the hammer for. If someone buys a wedding cake, you can assume what it is for. I guess, since you didn’t answer my question, that you never bought a wedding cake before so you don’t know the process. They have catalogs, for example, with pictures of…wedding cakes. Bakers will ask what the occasion is.