Sleep Paralysis

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I was not aware of the astral projection aspects of SP, but that does explain why when the first time I got SP, it felt like I was levitating upward but my body wasn’t. That was what freaked me out the most.

Given that I feel kind of lucky since I know how to induce sleep paralysis for myself. Without fail, if I took more than one nap during the day, I would get SP on the second nap. This kinda sucked because I was recruited to row at Johns Hopkins and between the 5am practice times and classes, those little naps during the day really helped me recover. Although the SP got to be such a problem I had to rework my sleep schedule.

I would usually go in for studies the med school was doing for a little extra cash here and there. I told them about this and they seemed interested although I have not heard back from them…

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liv: cool, calm and collected is the way to go. Most people are sucked back into their bodies because of excitement and that they are focusing on the wrong things and even getting too excited. Best thing is to pick a safe place away from the body that when you are starting to get out, all your intention is going towards getting to that place. For me at an old apartment I would pick this light post that I knew was right outside my wall. When I would project, the second I would realize what was going on all my intention went to getting to that light post and then I would be holding it. It also felt good to get towards light because I could stay by the light, feel protected and safe and watch the shadows until I felt calm enough to explore. SOmetimes I could fuck up and project to my closet and be in the dark scared. Usually we get out of the body and have add and thinking of a million things so we do a million things.

Speaking of shadows. I know a lot of you guys (its mostly guys talking about this) are seeing things, creatures, demons, old women etc there are 2 things going on with that. 1) they arent real, and it is actually your mind projecting all of this in front of you. You can literally project anything, that is the problem and that is why a lot of you experience weird things and are held back from progressing. If you and I projected into the same room in our astral bodies and you all of a sudden got the idea and intent to stab me you could do me some harm. This is why typically “they” wont let this happen. You have to have peaceful intent. If you dont there are a lot of other beings that are just going to screw with you on that. They know you will throw tantrums and be scared and they think its funny. Like a little sister afraid of the dark. If you had one you know you tried to scare the shit out of her all of the time. So some of the shadows arent real.
2) the shadows (figures, beings) that are real are there for a particular reason. Maybe it is a being that hasnt moved on, maybe it is a being that is there to help you in the astral world. Weird fact, the super crazy, ugly scary looking ones are usually the most helpful and niecest and coolest. But we are so about judging a book by its cover we cower and run. Not the thing to do. Some beings are strictly out to fuck with you, usually you have to figure out what the hell they want. good trick, ask them if they come from the highest intent, they have to answer and they have to leave if they dont. I was talking to one at some point and it sounded so cool, it really liked me and said it totally wanted to help, I asked where it came from and it got super pissed and started getting really upset, sorry buddy, you got to go. I remember one tried to help me and I beat the jesus out of it with a pan, just cause I was so scared because it was so ugly looking. Another one was screwing with me for like 2 weeks. one night i projected, saw him in my room hiding and asked him what the hell it wanted. He wanted to play and he thought what he was doing was funny. I explained its not funny and there are consequences to his actions. We chatted it out and he was just lost and immature.

Moving on to SP, the main reason it happens is there at some point is higher beings around you, maybe/maybe not you can see them, and they are doing positive things to your energy body (google). Well its like waking someone up in a panic. They want you to know they are there and there to help but if you woke up with 4 large, astral beings in your room, most peoples first instinct is to panic and start swinging. Imagine if you woke up and I was in your room, your first reaction would be kill the intruder. This is why they paralyze you. To lock you down so you dont panic. If you can calm down and relax they will let you go and allow you to get out of body. If you flip shit they are going to wake you up. Stay calm.

I totally understand how all of this sounds. and I wouldnt blame anyone for yelling bullshit. I look at it from an outside perspective and it definitely sounds different. Until you do research. Thats what cracks me up about people talking in front of churches, or temples, or other houses of warship, the people in PWI, dont really know what the hell is going on.

Take the red pill.

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all this OBE stuff is actually starting to sound interesting. i think ill look into it.

another weirdish thing that happened to me recently was a couple days after my last sleep paralysis. it was after school and i was taking a nap. i woke up normally for a few seconds and then fell back asleep, then i woke up shortly after paralysed. however i remembered reading that going back to sleep from paralysis can send you into a lucid dream, so i relaxed and let myself fall asleep. there was an intense buzzing in my. but then i sorta fell asleep and immediately woke up. the problem is that after i woke up i couldnt tell whether it had actually happened or all been a dream.

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haha that happens and its due to the chemicals secreted. Once you hear the buzzing thats the alarm for the OBE is coming. I used to flip shit, for me it is extremely loud. I always thought something was wrong. Did a little research and learned that its is actually the signal for the OBE taking place. If you can last the buzzing you will make it.

Crazy thing happened when I watched DMT The Spiritual Molecule (on netflixs, if you havent seen it, watch it. Truly amazing.) there is a point in the doc where a yoga instructor describes EXACTLY what happens to me during my OBE experiences. Blew my mind.

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Used to happen to me a couple of times a year when I was a kid. Scary as hell because I had hallucinations with it. There would be demons trying to carry me off and the like.

Hasn’t happened in years though.

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Man today my dad woke up to tell me something, and i tried to fall back asleep and i noticed my mind wasn’t falling asleep, so i tried to project and i got to the vibrational state and heard the loud ass buzzing and I was starting to see my room even though my eyes were closed shut, but i still couldn’t break through. So frustrating , I want to break through so badly…

Hips how many times have you projected?

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Liv: That is the point I am trying to get across, you project EVERY single time you hit the right level in sleep or meditation. You just need to learn to look for it, pay attention to when it is happening, remember you dreams, work within sleep/wake states, and calm control. I project on purpose when I can. Sometimes I just want to sleep and I dont care what happens. I have so many stories its ridiculus. Things I cant even talk about. I just feel like Aladdin " A WHOLE NEW WORLD!!!" :wink:

Guys I am explaining the demon thing, do not live in fear. Fear = False Evidence Appearing Real

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I have it once per month if that. I had it last night and only remember now that I read the title of this thread. To be honest I dont like it, but it doesnt massively bother me. Last night felt like my longest episode - probably like 30 seconds, felt like 2 minutes. I wake myself up through twitching a body part - its almost and art form.

Its very easy to get scared but try not to. I prefer to wake myself up, but others just slip back into deeper REM. Last night for a second I felt like my nostrils were presssed against the pillow and I couldnt breath, but I calmed after a couple of seconds I knew I could and tried waking myself up.

Im convinced that it is heavily influenced/primarily by stress and or alcohol.

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nope. natural occurance.

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@ hipsr4runnin: What exactly are these beings that you are claiming to have conversed with? What do they claim to be or where to they say they are from? How do you know that you can trust them? Interesting topic.

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[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
I have so many stories its ridiculus. Things I cant even talk about.
Guys I am explaining the demon thing, do not live in fear. Fear = False Evidence Appearing Real[/quote]

OK, you really need to tell us more about these. I’m curious.

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Clinton: VERY good questions and yes, agreed, super interesting topic. I havent talked about it in a while.

So if you go reading there is a shit ton of info. It goes all the way back to pre-Jesus of this ability. You would have to do a lot of research into the Pineal Gland, DMT, Multi Dimensional Theory, Energy etc. People claim all kinds of stuff. I have seen 1/2 it, other stuff I have not seen. Doesnt mean I dont think it exists, I just havent had THOSE experiences. Mine have been both good and bad but ultimately amazing. I have written one script. I am trying to make my story about all of this my next one.

Cutting to the chase:

They have different names. We know them as multidimensional beings, light beings, ghosts, angels, demons, astral bodies, astral authorities. In the astral world, there are rules. There are also people to enforce those rules. Every single person has a higher self. THere are multiple higher selves. There is the one closet to you and then I believe it goes up 11-13/14 levels. Your HIGHEST self is the final level before infinite energy. (Mind blown yet? Hang in there it gets worse). The things you encounter when you close your eyes can be any one of these things. Sometimes you will see the 3d physical body of someone. Some times you see the astral body. Sometimes you see the astral body of a past life hanging around your/or someone close to you astral body. It depends. Spirits, energy bodies, energy beings how ever you want to say it. Yes there are some lost, immature, out-to-do harm astral beings. Just like we have them here. Some are misdirected. You astral project but they are around, you are like a tourist in THEIR country, they dont like you and they dont have to like you so to get you to GTFO they freak on you.

They dont claim anything, they tell you. The last thing you want to do is ask them to prove it like its a magic trick. I just want to know if they are friendly because there are some real unfriendly ones. The first one I met was my higher-self and I thought it was trying to fucking kill me. One of the most intense and blind blowning experiences I have ever had. Punk threw my right back into my body. He wasnt happy I projected and was fucking around. Like I said, there are rules. You ultimately have the right to ask them what their intent is and where they come from. If they dont come from light, you literally need to banish them immediately. If they do, talk to them. Dont judge a book by its cover. EVERY world is a FREE WILL WORLD, sorry if you are heavy into GOD controling and directing everything, divine intervention can take place but it is NOT divine infinite and absolute control. (Im not yelling just pointing out things).

You dont know, so you need to ask. That is the best way. If you catch them, and sometimes you will, they will pull tricks, you can tell them to get lost. I have had a few conversations with lost “spirits” they think its a game, they dont know any better and sometimes they need to be talked to. Others are out to just straight out get you. FEAR is a great energy and they get a kick out of that. So they allow you to think you are weak, but you are not, you override and own them. You are higher than they are.
The ones you do trust are way cool and different, totally different VIBRATION, you dont feel worried or scared around them. I have had some protect me. Amazing to be able to call on them.
All of this above sounds like total bullshit I know. If I never went through it I would look at the screen, if I didnt write this myself and not have similar experiences, and say all negative and doubtful things. Thank you for not attacking me and claiming all of this as false by the way. I appreciate that.

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Fatty: Well some I can not talk about. I get in trouble for talking about this stuff. I have had a few conversations with people and that night I will go to sleep and they will pull me out of body for a round table chat. My girlfriend watched this happen one time. They tried to pull me out 3 times in one night! She stayed there watching me terrified because I was full on kicking and arguing with them (stupid idea.)

What do you want to hear about? They time my higher self beat the f**k out of me? (1st experience) or the time I was tested in a battle? Past life recognition? The time I woke up in on a different planet, in a different parallel dimension? The time I watched them work on my energy body?
I am saving most of this for the script. It means a whole lot to me. I have learned and changed so much from these experiences. I wish everyone could have them.

I know most peoples reaction “this fucking hippy is trippin’ on the wrong shit!” Problem is I have never done synthetic drugs, nor abide by hippy bullshit, nor smoke weed, nor take drugs. I have always been a oneironaut.
Love your avatar btw :slight_smile:

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I know you project every night when you sleep, but I still wana be able to do it at will… I guess though the better question would be, what’s the technique you used to become lucid in your dreams?

  • Would you know if the use of marijuana could effect one’s ability to project? Cause I smoke a lot. :stuck_out_tongue:
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I get sleep paralysis a lot, a couple times a week at least. It happens in a way to me that I’ve never heard happen to anyone else. Probably the majority of the time it happens, I will repeatedly fall back into it over and over again. I’ll try to wiggle my fingers and stuff, until I snap out of it, and then will fall into sleep paralysis again within seconds.

This will happen 5, 10, or more times all in a row, I don’t really have a choice but to get out of bed and walk around for a while. After a walk for a few minutes I’ll be able to go back to sleep fine if I’m still tired.

I’ve always had sleep paralysis on a semi-routine basis, but this often and these sympoms I attribute to working an odd shift and sleeping during the day, lack of regular sleep because of my sleep, and stress.

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Liv: I have a blend of tatics actually. Mostly you have to become really good and being aware that you are actually dreaming. For instance I woke up today and was like “damn I had some weird dreams last night” (chasing a person with a shotgun and then having dinner with Dr. Berardi??) and my immediate reaction was "ah fuck! why didnt I recognize that!?! (I was dreaming). YOu have to get obtain dream consciousness. That to me is step number one. Chasing the door is step number 2. You also need a clean 3rd eye. If the pineal gland/3rd eye/Pineal chakra is damanged or not functioning correctly you wont do well with it.

Yes it could. Most people cant keep control of it. You need to have control when projecting, above projecting you can let the experience happen but for projecting you would want a clean mind. Im sure for some people though it would help them project easier and with more confidence.

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Tat: maybe something is trying to force you to project. Quit trying to wake out of it and go with it. Have fun with it. It is absolutely amazing your first time (thats what she said). Maybe you are supposed to ascend…?

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What do you mean chasing the door for step 2? & what do you do to keep the 3rd eye chakra clean/healthy?

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oh man! looks like i need to do a podcast or skype session with y’all :wink:

Chasing the door is a meditation technique I adapted to suit my focus. I learned it from a youtube video where you stare at a certain part of a candle flame for a long time and then close your eyes, center the flame and lock it to your third eye. I found that if I close my eyes and focus my intent I can actually see the dot anyway. It is small and blue-ish. The object is to pull it closer. It is the opening to the worm hole.

You would have to do a google search for that. A TON of stuff out there such as skate liver oil, tapping techniques to wake up the 3rd eye, stop using floride etc.