Simo - The Red Shoe Diaries (Part 2)

Hit my all time PR running standard 531 for OHP, so once a week pressing with accessory work.

More bodyweight defo carries through to increased pressing, much like bench press.

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Tuesday 30th July - conditioning

EMOM for 30 mins
Odd mins - 3 x sandbag over shoulder with 60kg (132 lbs) bag
Even mins - 30 sec plank

For the last round I did 6 over shoulder and a full minute of plank.

Total sandbag reps - 33
Good session

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I thought that too but @Cyrrex is like 50kg.

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Are we talking about overhead pressing or STRICT pressing? Thatā€™s going to matter for my response.

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My ratios might be better than average, but I still think it is generally true that it will tend to go up with bodyweight. But of course, that is true of most lifts.

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Just overhead mate not strict, just max overhead.

Other general snark-free advice I would give:

  1. Training Maximally. Max singles and doubles work, and getting better at these forces up all your higher rep work.
  2. Your shoulders might be your most resilient muscles, they are involved in a bunch of lifts. You can train them more often than you think. They recover quickly.
  3. When I am really working on getting my press to improve, I am everyday thinking to myself ā€œhow does this help my pressā€? Led me to emphasize certain things and de-emphasize others.
  4. Donā€™t just do strict OHP on press day. Toss in some other stuff like push presses, seated DB presses, BtN presses, HSPUs (hah, good luck). A whole day of just pressing above your head is time well spent
  5. Push harder, pussy.
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I am a fan of high frequency and pretty high volume as well, followed by phases of high frequency, high intensity and medium volume. My shoulders can take a ton of overhead pressing from a recovery standpoint. I will always overhead press at least twice a week but have done up to 4 times a week in the past.

If you need to focus on strict pressing (that includes any variation - also bench press and incline) depends on your technique. If you are a technical presser that gets a decent amount out of the legs, you will need less strict pressing strength. I for example donā€™t focus on strict pressing at all besides the off season. The carryover is rather small because the weights I use there are so far off my overhead weights with leg drive. I utilize strict pressing more for ā€œshoulder health maintenanceā€ these days and focus on things like tempo btn pressing.

Technique: This is my biggest tip: Learn a sufficient technique. No other lift will benefit as much from a ā€œgoodā€ (meaning suitable to you and efficient) technique than the overhead press. Getting the most out of leg drive, be it with a push press, push jerk, power jerk or split jerk is the single most important variable for guys that arenā€™t just humongous and can muscle up the weight. A good press, starts with a good rack position. The most common mistake I see thogh is the dip and then reverse into drive.

Intensity vise I like high but submaximal intensities for the majority of your training.

For quick boosts of stregnth (not to be used for prolonged periods) I can recommend overhead lockout holds, supramaximal front rack holds (like super small rom front squats), weighted jumps from the box (way above parallel).

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The bench will have a very good carryover for some and not so great for most. It depends on your technique and also your size (ā€œsmallerā€ athletes will benefit less generally speaking). I have talked with the coach of 2 weight class world record holders in the overhead press. While the athlete in question could break the record with a 365 lbs axle clean and press, he could barely bench press 315 apparently. There are other examples of the opposite as well. This is something to figure out. But overall I concur with your statement. Especially looking at all the powerlifters at my gym, who are benching huge numbers but will have a piss poor overhead for the most part. SAID principle applies (Specific adapation to imposed demands).

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@Koestrizer and @Cyrrex so much great advice. Looks like the most common theme is frequency. Which seems to correlate with my less than impressive overhead seeing I rarely or infrequently do it.

@Koestrizer as far as the technique goes. This is a real challenge but also a great opportunity for some quick improvements. I really struggle with any kind of dip and drive so need to work out how to sort that shit out.

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My number one tip would be paused presses. I canā€™t stress the benefits of these enough. You can use them with any kind of leg drive press. I credit a lot of my success to those. Try using a slow descent and more importantly a DECENT pause. Feel where your weight is distributed through the feet. Focus on knees out so that your entire center of gravity doesnā€™t prematurely shift too far forward.

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Does that just mean holding it at the top?

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Good question

Paused at the bottom ???

Maybe in the Middle!

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We are such experts :joy::joy::joy:

At the bottom - the point youā€™d reverse the dip into the drive. Pausing at the top is useful for balance issues.

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I spent a bit of time reading up after you posted that. All good. Thankyou

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Iā€™ll join you in this. Time to pump these numbers up!

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Is it worth it? Let me work it
I put my thang down, flip it and reverse it

I finally know what those lyrics mean, she was talking about improving her push press.

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Iā€™m not familiar with this master piece but she sounds like she has a huge press!

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