[quote]Majin wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I think it was Armitage that outed Plame. This is purely an abuse of power by Congress. Dirty politics.
Outed him from what? Sitting besides a pool at some resort in Nigeria drinking booze and socializing with local dignitaries?
“Hey, did you guys sell any Uranium?”
“No.”
“I had to ask. Whatever. What were we talking about? Waiter, can I have another mai-tai?”
Outed HER, his wife, not him. He was the one looking for uranium while she was a classified undercover CIA.[/quote]
That is what is so ridiculous, trying to pretend his wife is undercover while he does the blatant spying. It didn’t take the media long to figure that out after he wrote an Op/Ed and everyone wondered what his involvement was so they immediately suspected his wife.
[quote]Majin wrote:
I wish everyone would quit thinking that Democrats are liberal and Republicans are conservative. They’re all just government. And whatever the assholes on one side do, the assholes on the other just sit there and let them do it up to the point where it’s too late, then the stink begins.
A great deal of the ruling class should go to prison but very few of them actually will.[/quote]
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Err… didn’t he run away from an indictment? Is that illegal or is it protected by the fifth?
He ran away from a subpoena, I don’t think he has been indicted from anything.
Well… is that legal?
No but an indictment is worse than a subpoena. A subpoena is a call to testify. An indictment is charges against someone.[/quote]
[quote]The Mage wrote:
Wasn’t it for Congress, and not a court of law? I believe the White House argued separation of powers.
Anyway the reason they did not want to comply was that this was not any real situation, but instead was done for political reasons to make Rove look bad, and as a result the Bush administration look bad, to help get Democrats in office.[/quote]
dOESN’T MATTER. HE STILL AHS TO SHOW UP FOR THE SUBPOENA.
Rove has always impressed me as one of those slick “cover-your-ass” kind of guys whose gathered enough dirt on just the right people in both the Houses to Congress to not be too worried about a Subpeona.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Rove has always impressed me as one of those slick “cover-your-ass” kind of guys whose gathered enough dirt on just the right people in both the Houses to Congress to not be too worried about a Subpeona.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
half the people in washington should probably be in jail.
All you have to do is look at who produced this video. No need to actually watch it. Only liberals have the time or energy for this kind of stuff. They are waisting endless amounts of time calling in anyone they care to screw. They don’t have a case on any of them. They are just trying to catch them in a lie or contradiction. Doesn’t matter if it’s relavent not.
Pretty productive. I guess they have nothing else to do.[/quote]
I disagree, about 90% of the power brokers in Washington should be in jail.
The rest of your reply holds no water. He was issued a subpoena by Congress and is just thumbing his nose at them. Am I to assume that is okay with you because he is on the republicans side and so are you?
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Is Rove an actual part of the Bush admin? I thought he was just an unchaired advisor.
He isn’t part of the administration any longer which is even stranger that he is trying to use executive privelege![/quote]
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
The Mage wrote:
Wasn’t it for Congress, and not a court of law? I believe the White House argued separation of powers.
Anyway the reason they did not want to comply was that this was not any real situation, but instead was done for political reasons to make Rove look bad, and as a result the Bush administration look bad, to help get Democrats in office.
dOESN’T MATTER. HE STILL AHS TO SHOW UP FOR THE SUBPOENA.[/quote]
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
dhickey wrote:
half the people in washington should probably be in jail.
All you have to do is look at who produced this video. No need to actually watch it. Only liberals have the time or energy for this kind of stuff. They are waisting endless amounts of time calling in anyone they care to screw. They don’t have a case on any of them. They are just trying to catch them in a lie or contradiction. Doesn’t matter if it’s relavent not.
Pretty productive. I guess they have nothing else to do.
I disagree, about 90% of the power brokers in Washington should be in jail.
The rest of your reply holds no water. He was issued a subpoena by Congress and is just thumbing his nose at them. Am I to assume that is okay with you because he is on the republicans side and so are you?[/quote]
I think it is ok becuase it’s a bullshit investagation and a waste of time. A witch hunt plain an simple.
Strangely enough this seems to be a matter of public opinion. When Bush was more popular and his argument was simply “nu uh, I’m the president. I don’t have to do anything,” people were buying. The issue is litigable for sure, but there was no will to pursue it until recently. Politics in this country is very strange when you look at it.
I mean now that there is talk of impeaching Bush it will be much harder for Rove to get away with ignoring the subpoena. And the only reason Bush is being looked at for impeachment is because the legislative branch no longer fears the retaliation of the public’s opinion! A sack of pussies if you think about it… Or maybe this is representation in action. I don’t know, whatever it is, it’s hard to describe as the ‘rule of law.’
You may be right, but we’ll see… I’m sure Rove would like to agree with you, lol.
The thing is that now the political atmosphere here in Washington is experiencing the ‘swing of the pendulum’ in the opposite direction with regards to the acceptance of Bush’s (or rather his stupid lawyer that got fired) “executive privilege” argument. It may go nowhere, that all depends on just how weak Bush is now, and conversely how strong Obama is IMO… Cause we all know that congress are a bunch pantywastes.
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.[/quote]
Oh, and one final thought… The issue of “executive privilege” is completely litigable at this point. That argument won’t necessarily mean sweet FA if the dems really sick their dogs on the Bushies and win.
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.
Oh, and one final thought… The issue of “executive privilege” is completely litigable at this point. That argument won’t necessarily mean sweet FA if the dems really sick their dogs on the Bushies and win.[/quote]
Bush will sign a pardon on his way out the door. It is the nature of politics.
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.
Oh, and one final thought… The issue of “executive privilege” is completely litigable at this point. That argument won’t necessarily mean sweet FA if the dems really sick their dogs on the Bushies and win.
Bush will sign a pardon on his way out the door. It is the nature of politics.[/quote]
Yes, but there has already been talk of impeachment. I don’t know what, if any, rights he would retain if he were impeached.
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.
Oh, and one final thought… The issue of “executive privilege” is completely litigable at this point. That argument won’t necessarily mean sweet FA if the dems really sick their dogs on the Bushies and win.
Bush will sign a pardon on his way out the door. It is the nature of politics.
Yes, but there has already been talk of impeachment. I don’t know what, if any, rights he would retain if he were impeached.
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That would put McCain in the White House for sure.
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.
Oh, and one final thought… The issue of “executive privilege” is completely litigable at this point. That argument won’t necessarily mean sweet FA if the dems really sick their dogs on the Bushies and win.
Bush will sign a pardon on his way out the door. It is the nature of politics.
Yes, but there has already been talk of impeachment. I don’t know what, if any, rights he would retain if he were impeached.
That would put McCain in the White House for sure.
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REALLY!? If he is next in line then that truly confirms an earlier poster’s comment (maybe it was you) that this is just a dog and pony show because the dems will never knowingly put McCain in office.
What does him not being a part of the administration anymore have to do with executive priviledge? I am pretty sure they are after information from when he was a part of the administration.
Oh, and one final thought… The issue of “executive privilege” is completely litigable at this point. That argument won’t necessarily mean sweet FA if the dems really sick their dogs on the Bushies and win.
Bush will sign a pardon on his way out the door. It is the nature of politics.
Yes, but there has already been talk of impeachment. I don’t know what, if any, rights he would retain if he were impeached.
That would put McCain in the White House for sure.
REALLY!? If he is next in line then that truly confirms an earlier poster’s comment (maybe it was you) that this is just a dog and pony show because the dems will never knowingly put McCain in office.
Oh well, I guess Rove wins this round…[/quote]
This election is Obama’s to lose but if the Democrats try to impeach Bush at this juncture the American people will turn so fast your head will spin. Obama will either have to speak out against the impeachment thus derailing it or support it this turning off millions of voters.