Should 10-Year-Olds Get Tattoos?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

Mom should not be in jail given all of things people do that don’t get sent to jail.

But no ten year old should be allowed to make any decisions that carry a lifetime of consequences. They simply lack the experience and maturity.

Plenty of other ways to honor the fallen.[/quote]

None of you have explained how you resolve the earring issue when it comes to the same morals.

What if the issue is getting a boy’s ear’s pierced at the same age as a girl’s?

This was his brother. I had a friend die at the age of 8 and I doubt I would regret having a tat of him unless LOCATION was the issue and I got it in a highly visible area.[/quote]

I wouldn’t get my daughter’s ears pierced at that age either.

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

Mom should not be in jail given all of things people do that don’t get sent to jail.

But no ten year old should be allowed to make any decisions that carry a lifetime of consequences. They simply lack the experience and maturity.

Plenty of other ways to honor the fallen.[/quote]

None of you have explained how you resolve the earring issue when it comes to the same morals.

What if the issue is getting a boy’s ear’s pierced at the same age as a girl’s?

This was his brother. I had a friend die at the age of 8 and I doubt I would regret having a tat of him unless LOCATION was the issue and I got it in a highly visible area.[/quote]

I wouldn’t get my daughter’s ears pierced at that age either.[/quote]

Me either…but the issue is why is it ok.

Personally, I wouldn’t let my kid get a tat at 10. But I can’t understand arresting a woman for it/having it be illegal. Not for me, but who am I to judge. If there was a reason to do it, the death of a brother ranks pretty high up there.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

Mom should not be in jail given all of things people do that don’t get sent to jail.

But no ten year old should be allowed to make any decisions that carry a lifetime of consequences. They simply lack the experience and maturity.

Plenty of other ways to honor the fallen.[/quote]

None of you have explained how you resolve the earring issue when it comes to the same morals.

What if the issue is getting a boy’s ear’s pierced at the same age as a girl’s?

This was his brother. I had a friend die at the age of 8 and I doubt I would regret having a tat of him unless LOCATION was the issue and I got it in a highly visible area.[/quote]

I wouldn’t get my daughter’s ears pierced at that age either.[/quote]

Me either…but the issue is why is it ok.[/quote]

I’m saying I disagree with both the tatoo and the ear piercing for the same reasons. I don’t think either are okay.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

Parental consent isn’t an option?

I couldn’t legally enter contract when I joined my gym at 15…mom signed of on it and I was good to go.

That doesn’t apply here?[/quote]

Not as far as I can tell. What I read of the law said that you need the supervision of a doctor but a parents consent doesn’t count here. I imagine that it’s a protection against poor parents who would OK a “I love Lisa/George” tattoo on their arm when they’re 10.

james

[quote]Professor X wrote:
So…do you teach your kids to simply blindly follow all rules and disregard their own personal values in all situations?..or do you teach them to think?[/quote]

You teach a 10 year old to follow the rules. At that age you are still building the concept of long term consequences and haven’t really mastered personal values. So what you teach them is that there are laws and those laws need to be followed. You can teach them that if they disagree with those laws that there are avenues for them to take to change those laws. This would have been a great opportunity for her to do that.

But she didn’t What I would have done is told my son that I understood why he wanted the tattoo and that I believed it was a very thoughtful idea. But then I would have explained that it was unlawful for me to say OK and it was unlawful for a tattoo parlor to do such work on a minor. I could explain that I didn’t agree with it but I still had to follow it but perhaps we could start a petition to change the law.

I see that as the difference between good parenting and lazy parenting.

james

[quote]atypical1 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

Parental consent isn’t an option?

I couldn’t legally enter contract when I joined my gym at 15…mom signed of on it and I was good to go.

That doesn’t apply here?[/quote]

Not as far as I can tell. What I read of the law said that you need the supervision of a doctor but a parents consent doesn’t count here. I imagine that it’s a protection against poor parents who would OK a “I love Lisa/George” tattoo on their arm when they’re 10.

james
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Yeah, I think the ral reason for the law is to protect children from dumbass parents who would tat their kid up because they thought it was cute or something.

[quote]NvrTooLate wrote:
This is technically still on subject:

I’m amazed at the people with several large tatoos that struggle to pay rent, no medical insurance, etc. They have plenty of money for the tats but seem to run out when it comes to the necessitys.[/quote]
Yeah because everybody with large tattoos can’t pay rent and has no medical insurance. Good generalization. Every person I know, including myself, like that has no problem with either. You must know a lot of low lifes.

[quote]LessTraveled wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

TL:DR
-10 y/o kid’s brother died
-asked mom to get a tattoo in remembrance of his bro
-she said o.k.
-he got it done
-mom got arrested for “child cruelty”

note: the kid got the tattoo done at a legit studio.

So, should the kid have the legal right to get a tattoo since his mother consented to it? Would you let your child get a tattoo?
Discus.[/quote]

he’s not old enough to to make that decision, no matter how heartfelt.

no, I would not let my child get tatood. I have also refused mohawks and earrings (my 6 year old has asked for both b/c of the little future felons he goes to school with - because when your parents are letting you get your ears pierced at 5, what kind of parents do you expect they’d be???).[/quote]

Right because Mohawks make you a felon…wow, awesome stereotype bud. oh while your at it you mind as well just say that Older White guys always wear plaid pants and Golf 24-7 right? (see mirror).

So if I shave my kids head because in summer its hot or because he does Brazilian Ju-jitsu 4 times a weak and he like his hair short for that then my kids going to grow up to be a Skinhead???

I do agree on the ear piercing deal, some people get their INFANT girls pierced, that’s a little scary for me, I would not allow that.

I Don’t think Id stop my kid from wearing his hair like he wanted and I do not. If my kid grows up to be a felon then it has notning to do with his fucking hair and everything to do with my failure as a parent to teach love, respect, and acceptance.

Now Im going to be a hypocrite here and say that I do not allow my boys to walk around with their pants hanging off their asses like a gangsta…I guess that would imply that I believe thier style of pants is going to influence how they grow up…I just hate baggy jeans and I don’t want to walk around seeing other peoples asses in public, its fucking disrespectful.
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calm down sugar britches. i don’t have to reply b/c you’re all over the place here contradicting yourself.

and i don’t play golf or own plaid pants. lol

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

TL:DR
-10 y/o kid’s brother died
-asked mom to get a tattoo in remembrance of his bro
-she said o.k.
-he got it done
-mom got arrested for “child cruelty”

note: the kid got the tattoo done at a legit studio.

So, should the kid have the legal right to get a tattoo since his mother consented to it? Would you let your child get a tattoo?
Discus.[/quote]

he’s not old enough to to make that decision, no matter how heartfelt.

no, I would not let my child get tatood. I have also refused mohawks and earrings (my 6 year old has asked for both b/c of the little future felons he goes to school with - because when your parents are letting you get your ears pierced at 5, what kind of parents do you expect they’d be???).[/quote]

What about deadlocks or cornrows…any kind of braid?

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my son also wants dreads b/c his older “cousin” has them.

the answer is no.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Mom should not be in jail given all of things people do that don’t get sent to jail.

But no ten year old should be allowed to make any decisions that carry a lifetime of consequences. They simply lack the experience and maturity.

Plenty of other ways to honor the fallen.[/quote]

Some kids get to choose what parent they live with after a split…

Kids get to decide whether or not they play sports or play an instrument.

Both have lifelong influences.

Not every 10 year old is the same. A decision like the one this kid made should show that he was more mature than most. The fact that he was able to finish the tat should be evidence enough that this isn’t an ordinary kid.[/quote]

10 year olds don’t get to decide where they live.

and you cannot choose sports without parental consent.

you’re wrong.

make better arguments.

[quote]atypical1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
So…do you teach your kids to simply blindly follow all rules and disregard their own personal values in all situations?..or do you teach them to think?[/quote]

You teach a 10 year old to follow the rules. At that age you are still building the concept of long term consequences and haven’t really mastered personal values. So what you teach them is that there are laws and those laws need to be followed. You can teach them that if they disagree with those laws that there are avenues for them to take to change those laws. This would have been a great opportunity for her to do that.

But she didn’t What I would have done is told my son that I understood why he wanted the tattoo and that I believed it was a very thoughtful idea. But then I would have explained that it was unlawful for me to say OK and it was unlawful for a tattoo parlor to do such work on a minor. I could explain that I didn’t agree with it but I still had to follow it but perhaps we could start a petition to change the law.

I see that as the difference between good parenting and lazy parenting.

james

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Good answer.

I still think that final decision of whether to allow it should lie with the parent.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
I asked for a tattoo when i was 16 after my grandma passed, its a small one but mom said no, if you want it still at 18 do whatever you want. i walked around with the drawing in my wallet for 2 years and the first thing i did when i turned 18 was get it done. So you can say no lol.

I do not think the mother should have gotten arrested for it, but i also do not agree with it. [/quote]

Haha I’m waiting to do the same thing. My grandpa passed last summer (when I was 16). I’m 17 now and am still waiting.

CS

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]LessTraveled wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

TL:DR
-10 y/o kid’s brother died
-asked mom to get a tattoo in remembrance of his bro
-she said o.k.
-he got it done
-mom got arrested for “child cruelty”

note: the kid got the tattoo done at a legit studio.

So, should the kid have the legal right to get a tattoo since his mother consented to it? Would you let your child get a tattoo?
Discus.[/quote]

he’s not old enough to to make that decision, no matter how heartfelt.

no, I would not let my child get tatood. I have also refused mohawks and earrings (my 6 year old has asked for both b/c of the little future felons he goes to school with - because when your parents are letting you get your ears pierced at 5, what kind of parents do you expect they’d be???).[/quote]

Right because Mohawks make you a felon…wow, awesome stereotype bud. oh while your at it you mind as well just say that Older White guys always wear plaid pants and Golf 24-7 right? (see mirror).

So if I shave my kids head because in summer its hot or because he does Brazilian Ju-jitsu 4 times a weak and he like his hair short for that then my kids going to grow up to be a Skinhead???

I do agree on the ear piercing deal, some people get their INFANT girls pierced, that’s a little scary for me, I would not allow that.

I Don’t think Id stop my kid from wearing his hair like he wanted and I do not. If my kid grows up to be a felon then it has notning to do with his fucking hair and everything to do with my failure as a parent to teach love, respect, and acceptance.

Now Im going to be a hypocrite here and say that I do not allow my boys to walk around with their pants hanging off their asses like a gangsta…I guess that would imply that I believe thier style of pants is going to influence how they grow up…I just hate baggy jeans and I don’t want to walk around seeing other peoples asses in public, its fucking disrespectful.
[/quote]

calm down sugar britches. i don’t have to reply b/c you’re all over the place here contradicting yourself.

and i don’t play golf or own plaid pants. lol[/quote]

Sugar Britches…awesome!.

Anyway, I guess I do sound all over the place and I guess its only because I was speaking about things that bug the shit out of me and of things that I don’t think are a big deal. SO yeah I guess I am contradicting myself, my apologies.

I guess I don’t think a mohawk is going to influence my kid to be a criminal…but I wouldn’t allow cornrolls, braids etc etc. SO I guess Im fucked up and the hypocrite.

Also to chime in on the subject of the thread…NO I wouldn’t allow my 10 year old to get a tattoo.

Also BG, don’t lie man, we know your closet full of plaid bro, don’t be mad.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
I asked for a tattoo when i was 16 after my grandma passed, its a small one but mom said no, if you want it still at 18 do whatever you want. i walked around with the drawing in my wallet for 2 years and the first thing i did when i turned 18 was get it done. So you can say no lol.

I do not think the mother should have gotten arrested for it, but i also do not agree with it. [/quote]

Awesome!

I’m slightly torn on this. While I personally think 10 is too young, ultimately, the decision should be a parental one. At least then the tattoo/situation could be judged on individual merit which is quite an important factor here as I’m sure most people who don’t particularly disagree on this occasion wouldn’t feel the same if the tattoo was some skull gangsta tattoo.

I think this conversation is slightly confusing because it went from: “Is this child abuse?” To “Should she have done it.” That’s a pretty big difference.

Do those that think she shouldn’t have done it also think that it’s child abuse that she did?

[quote]Oleena wrote:
I think this conversation is slightly confusing because it went from: “Is this child abuse?” To “Should she have done it.” That’s a pretty big difference.

Do those that think she shouldn’t have done it also think that it’s child abuse that she did?[/quote]

Actually the first question asked was “So, should the kid have the legal right to get a tattoo since his mother consented to it? Would you let your child get a tattoo?” and that’s the question we’ve been answering.

Regarding your question of child abuse, I would say no. It’s certainly not looking after the best interest of the child but not sure if I would label someone a child abuser for it.

james

To reply to the original topic, I would let my kid get it done if he paid for it himself and it was legal. If a ten year old figures out how to raise $300+ without begging for it, he “earned it”.

.

[quote]LessTraveled wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]LessTraveled wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

TL:DR
-10 y/o kid’s brother died
-asked mom to get a tattoo in remembrance of his bro
-she said o.k.
-he got it done
-mom got arrested for “child cruelty”

note: the kid got the tattoo done at a legit studio.

So, should the kid have the legal right to get a tattoo since his mother consented to it? Would you let your child get a tattoo?
Discus.[/quote]

he’s not old enough to to make that decision, no matter how heartfelt.

no, I would not let my child get tatood. I have also refused mohawks and earrings (my 6 year old has asked for both b/c of the little future felons he goes to school with - because when your parents are letting you get your ears pierced at 5, what kind of parents do you expect they’d be???).[/quote]

Right because Mohawks make you a felon…wow, awesome stereotype bud. oh while your at it you mind as well just say that Older White guys always wear plaid pants and Golf 24-7 right? (see mirror).

So if I shave my kids head because in summer its hot or because he does Brazilian Ju-jitsu 4 times a weak and he like his hair short for that then my kids going to grow up to be a Skinhead???

I do agree on the ear piercing deal, some people get their INFANT girls pierced, that’s a little scary for me, I would not allow that.

I Don’t think Id stop my kid from wearing his hair like he wanted and I do not. If my kid grows up to be a felon then it has notning to do with his fucking hair and everything to do with my failure as a parent to teach love, respect, and acceptance.

Now Im going to be a hypocrite here and say that I do not allow my boys to walk around with their pants hanging off their asses like a gangsta…I guess that would imply that I believe thier style of pants is going to influence how they grow up…I just hate baggy jeans and I don’t want to walk around seeing other peoples asses in public, its fucking disrespectful.
[/quote]

calm down sugar britches. i don’t have to reply b/c you’re all over the place here contradicting yourself.

and i don’t play golf or own plaid pants. lol[/quote]

Sugar Britches…awesome!.

Anyway, I guess I do sound all over the place and I guess its only because I was speaking about things that bug the shit out of me and of things that I don’t think are a big deal. SO yeah I guess I am contradicting myself, my apologies.

I guess I don’t think a mohawk is going to influence my kid to be a criminal…but I wouldn’t allow cornrolls, braids etc etc. SO I guess Im fucked up and the hypocrite.

Also to chime in on the subject of the thread…NO I wouldn’t allow my 10 year old to get a tattoo.

Also BG, don’t lie man, we know your closet full of plaid bro, don’t be mad.[/quote]

dude, you live in Alasaka, I live in NJ. I bet your whole wardrobe is flannel.

There are a few kids in my son’s school with earrings and mohawks. Grade school. Without exception, their parents are uneducated, and in dead end jobs. It is absolutely largely a class issue. You don’t generally see the children of college educated, high wage earning parents, wearing earrings and mohawks in GRADE SCHOOL.

I’m not saying its a foreshadowing of future failure (I exaggerated with my felon remark for effect), but I’m not betting my money on their success. It’s not the earrings and mohawks per se, it’s the decisions to allow them that’s questionable.