[quote]basementD wrote:
I used to be a lacto-ovo vegetarian, but I didn’t know how to eat properly or train properly back then, I still made gains though.
Not to be anal, but how can someone claim to be a vegan if they use whey or creatine which both come from animal sources? [/quote]
Creatine is synthetic, not an animal by product.
[quote]basementD wrote:
I used to be a lacto-ovo vegetarian, but I didn’t know how to eat properly or train properly back then, I still made gains though.
Not to be anal, but how can someone claim to be a vegan if they use whey or creatine which both come from animal sources? [/quote]
I think the deadlift is hard to get right. I think it’s very important to have enough flexibility to get down to the bar with an arched back. I got my dl up to 465 and then my back started hurting me because I had zero flexibility and was not properly arching my back. I’ve now been working very hard at improving my flexibility and the dl is starting to come along again. I should get 500 within a few months.
Actually the creatine I have says “safe for vegans.” I don’t think creatine is made from meat…even though it’s found in it.
[quote]sensless wrote:
Is someone claiming to be Vegan that uses either of those products?
Regards,
Sensless[/quote]
Not you, but some weight trainers make this claim. I am not going to call anybody out.
I am not making this statement to start anything, but instead to clarify the terminology. If someone eats fish, then they can’t claim to be a vegetarian.
If someone eats animal products, then they aren’t technically a vegan.
I misspelled HilligenN’s name.
http://www.cbass.com/Hilligenn.htm
[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
what the f#@)?
Our body panicks and stuffs holes in arteries with spare cells and vitamins?
We arent fixing the roof man! Vitamin C is essential to form the colagen matrix that all of our bodies tissues are made from. It’s not stuffed in there as a stopgap solution.
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Actually, it pretty much is a stopgap solution.
Vitamin C is the best way to fix the damage and used on purpose, yes. If the body had enough always present, it would use it all the time. Unless you suppliment with high enough doses, though, you don’t have enough to use for all the little cuts and holes that form in the vessels. The cholesterol and other materials are stuck in there when the hole isn’t fixed correctly quickly enough.
Sometimes the collagen matrix will form over the collected plaque after buildup has occurred. This might or might not be dangerous depending on the shape of the formation.
[quote]Mike Mahler wrote:
basementD wrote:
I used to be a lacto-ovo vegetarian, but I didn’t know how to eat properly or train properly back then, I still made gains though.
Not to be anal, but how can someone claim to be a vegan if they use whey or creatine which both come from animal sources?
Creatine is synthetic, not an animal by product.
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Mike,
Thanks for setting me straight. I though creatine was only produced from red meat, now I know that red meat isn’t the only source.
[quote]Proteinpowda wrote:
Actually the creatine I have says “safe for vegans.” I don’t think creatine is made from meat…even though it’s found in it. [/quote]
I stand corrected. It’s good to know that there are options out there for vegetarians.
[quote]Jay Sherman wrote:
basementD wrote:
I used to be a lacto-ovo vegetarian, but I didn’t know how to eat properly or train properly back then, I still made gains though.
Not to be anal, but how can someone claim to be a vegan if they use whey or creatine which both come from animal sources?
I think the deadlift is hard to get right. I think it’s very important to have enough flexibility to get down to the bar with an arched back. I got my dl up to 465 and then my back started hurting me because I had zero flexibility and was not properly arching my back. I’ve now been working very hard at improving my flexibility and the dl is starting to come along again. I should get 500 within a few months. [/quote]
Jay,
I think I got my facts straight now. A vegan can eat creatine if it is from a synthetic source. A lacto-vegetarian can eat whey.
I think the Shosha guy someone posted can bench 400+ and he is a vegan.
Senseless: a theory for you. Perhaps your body doesn’t break down the protein in meat correctly, leading to extra nitrogen in your blood. Your kidneys may not filter it out very quickly. If the excess nitrogen stays in the bloodstream, it could lead to symptoms like the bends, including joint pain. It was just a thought, I don’t know if it’s medically possible, but maybe something to check out.
To-Shin Do
Vegans eat no animal products (i.e. dairy, eggs, honey), whereas vegetarians (like Bill Pearl) eat no animals (no meat or fish) and nothing with animal ingredients (e.g. pastry made with lard) but we do eat dairy, eggs.
Girls are decently cute. But if I can circle one hand around a woman’s upper arm as looks to be the case here, she is too thin and needs some muscle.
[quote]carld57 wrote:
Holy friggin old thread! I might as well add this:[/quote]
I’m in this club on Michigan’s facebook
Testy wouldn’t hit it.
The girls say they won’t eat things that can’t speak up for themselves. Do vegetables talk?
[quote]Vyskol wrote:
Uh…
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i don’t see the point of what they are trying to say. To me it seems they want to show it as cool, the way i look at it if there is a use for meat, i.e. building muscle, being stronger, etc. then it is not sinful, because there is a purpose for it. This notion by the way is what Native Americans believed in and lived by it, they also offered whatever they ate to god.
P.s. i think this whole notion of eating meat as being sinful or bad is hogwash. What about the trees that we chop everyday to make paper, build houses, and clear land, is that not a living being too? What’s their solution, go back to living in caves, and wear a loincloth?
You guys are the exception, because you know your shit… think about those squat rack curlers, then think what their equivalent is in the veggie way, and you’ve got the typical vegetarian. These guys eat SO unealthy, and the reasoning behind their vegitarianism is almost always bogus. I know of a vegetarian who lives off veggie pizzas, pepsi and candy.
I have absolutely nothing against vegans like PP, Senseless or Mike, because they have a head on their (massive -roarrrrr!-) shoulders. I have absolutely something against 17 year old girls who weigh 80pounds at 5’11 that are angry at you because eating meat is ‘not right’, and they don’t respect MY view.
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Testy wouldn’t hit it.[/quote]
LOL
[quote]violentvegan wrote:
PETA is a bunch of pussies.[/quote]
I take umbrage at this. I am a proud member of PETA… PEOPLE for the EATING of TASTY ANIMALS!
