[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Which makes for an interesting moral dilemma if one is Catholic.
Which is more immoral, to allow countless babies to die in spontaneous abortions, or to prevent this from happening, with condoms?[/quote]
I’m not religious, and totally a fan of birth control, I’m fixed myself.
But I imagine the argument would be something like “one is god’s plan, God allows the miscarriage and it is natural. No harm no foul, for these particular miscarriages you’re speaking of. The condom is still a sin because…”[/quote]
Who is to say that the doctor-assisted chemical or surgical abortion was not also part of God’s plan? Perhaps he is using the surgeons and pharmacists as agents of His divine will. For what reason, it is beyond our pitiful human understanding to comprehend.
I don’t actually believe this, of course, but nobody can prove that it’s wrong.
Another comment you might be talking about that didnâ??t go over well is how abortion is tied to breast cancer. I do not have the time or money to do the research myself but logic and reason tell me that when a woman is pregnant, she has his levels of progesterone. Interrupting those high levels through an abortion has to cause her entire hormone system to be thrown out of whack for months. Then you try and say she wouldnâ??t have a reaction to that disruption?
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Wouldn’t logic and reason tell you that a woman that has taken her pregnancy to full term and gave berth would have exposed herself to higher progesterone levels for a longer period of time?
The number of women with breast cancer could be higher today than in 1973 simply because of the increase in the female population. Let’s just estimate that there were 1.7 billion women on Earth in 1973. Let’s estimate that there are 3.4 billion women on Earth today. There is an estimated 1.7 billion more women on Earth today as compared to 1973.
[quote]roybot wrote:
The author of the article claims the song has a pro-life message, not the songwriter (Dan Wilson said it was to mark the birth of his kid). Where abortion comes into I can’t fathom. Might as well say the line “One last call for alcohol so finish your whiskey or beer” is an ode to fetal alcohol syndrome.
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Because rather than point out the scientific fact that it is a unique human life at conception, a lot of the pro-life stuff he posts goes off into hyperbole land, if not making up a bunch of stuff, which is unnecessary. [/quote]
Absolutely. If you’re truly passionate about a cause you’ll at least make the effort to find reliable sources.
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
This got me thinking about hidden meanings in some of my favorite songs, and now I’m beginning to think that “Sex Farm” isn’t about farming at all.
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Spinal Tap are great, but the filthiest double meanings in music are hidden in plain sight. Why does Leona Lewis keep keep bleeding love?
[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
Hey guys, is Stairway to Heaven about abortion? [/quote]
Yes, obviously.
“If there’s a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t be alarmed now” = If there is a baby in your uterus, don’t worry.
“It’s just a spring clean for the May queen” = A quick dilation and evacuation will clean it right out.
“Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run” = You can choose to have the baby, or not…
“There’s still time to change the road you’re on” = You have until the third trimester to make up your mind.
Led Zeppelin were heavily funded by Planned Parenthood. I have no evidence to support this claim, but I’d be willing to be bet my house that it’s true.
Evidence Varqanir? Provide a modern source please ; )
For the sake of argument lets give you the benifit of the doubt. Is there a difference between what man does himself and what GOD does? Of course there is a difference.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
For every thirty babies that are carried to term, seventy are aborted.
Not by doctors, but by the Great Physician Himself, God.
Most people know them by their more common name, “miscarriages”, but in medical parlance, they are called “spontaneous abortions”.
Most of the time the mother didn’t even know she was pregnant, and if she notices her aborted baby at all, it looks just like a tiny blood clot on the maxi-pad.
This happens all the time.
All. The. Time.
So often that it’s safe to say that every woman who has ever had unprotected sex has probably had a multitude of abortions in her lifetime, and she never even knew it.
Which makes for an interesting moral dilemma if one is Catholic.
Which is more immoral, to allow countless babies to die in spontaneous abortions, or to prevent this from happening, with condoms?[/quote]
The hormone levels coincide with the fetus. Pregnancy has existed for well over four thousand years of history so the levels are where they need to be in the natural world. Say a woman breast feeds full time, her body will not allow her to become pregnant by not releasing eggs. However some women who carry their child to term do not breast feed exclusively.
My appologies for not being clear in my original post. I was not reffering to the actual number, but the PERCENTAGES of healthy women to ones with breat cancer. Please compare the numbers from before 1973 to current numbers.
[quote]The number of women with breast cancer could be higher today than in 1973 simply because of the increase in the female population. Let’s just estimate that there were 1.7 billion women on Earth in 1973. Let’s estimate that there are 3.4 billion women on Earth today. There is an estimated 1.7 billion more women on Earth today as compared to 1973.
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