The SD newspaper gave their list of potential candidates: Bill Parcells, Pete Carroll, Norv Turner, and Ted Cottrell.
It’s unfortunate the Chargers watited to fire Marty until AFTER they let Cam Cameron and Wade Phillips go.
To quote one letter to the editor today:
Well, Dean, I see you got the barn door closed. After all the horses got out. I think the “dysfunction” starts at the top.
There are a lot of franchises that would jump at the chance for AJ Smith; Schottenheimer is not a championship caliber coach, and almost entire staff took other jobs. As long as they don’t replace him with an also-ran like Green or Turner, they’ll be fine.
I’ll take Smith and any coach over a crappy GM like Millen or a meddling owner like the 'skins or Raiders.
It’s a long shot…
…But don’t forget that the Bears are STILL “negotiating” Lovie’s contract…
(which to me is simply crazy…)
Mufasa
I think Mike Martz would be an interesting hire. He could do wonders with this extremely talented offensive team. Remember what a weapon Faulk was?Also, San Diego’s defense is much better than the Rams teams he took to the Superbowl.
[quote]swivel wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Marty’s poor playoff history is well known but to fire a coach after a 14-2 season is bizarre.
i agree. it’s not like the chargers are ever going to do better than that.
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On the contrary, the ownership believes that the reason for the 14-win season was Marty’s assistants; when four of them left after the season ended, ownership blamed Marty for not being able to retain those that made the difference this season.
To the ownership, it was just another symptom of his lack of control, not too much unlike having d-backs intercepting 4th down passes and trying to run with them or head-butting opponents in front of the ref after the play had ended. High school teams know better, and the buck stops at the coach.
Sorry not buying that it was Marty’s fault…
2004 AP NFL Coach of Year
2004 Pro Football Weekly
NFL Coach of Year
2004 Maxwell Football Club
NFL Coach of Year
1995 UPI NCL COY (AFC)
1986 UPI AFC
Coach of the Year
205-139-1 Record.
Looks like a pretty damn good background to me.
Oh and SD fans… keep in mind he had for all practicality a rookie QB this year.
Second, if you have two great head coaching prospects in-house, why do you let them go…THEN fire Marty?
[quote]Mod Laurie wrote:
The SD newspaper gave their list of potential candidates: Bill Parcells, Pete Carroll, Norv Turner, and Ted Cottrell.
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Cottrell is an intersting choice. The old Buffalo Bills connection.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Second, if you have two great head coaching prospects in-house, why do you let them go…THEN fire Marty?[/quote]
So the team will be in a complete shambles and you can look for a new home. 
Marty made a lot of average teams very good. This time he took a very good (possibly great) team and made them, well, average…
The timing of the move is interesting… I have to question that part.
I like the idea of Mike Martz as the new guy out there. Well, as a Steelers fan, maybe I don’t like that idea so much.
LA
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Sorry not buying that it was Marty’s fault…
2004 AP NFL Coach of Year
2004 Pro Football Weekly
NFL Coach of Year
2004 Maxwell Football Club
NFL Coach of Year
1995 UPI NCL COY (AFC)
1986 UPI AFC
Coach of the Year
205-139-1 Record.
Looks like a pretty damn good background to me.
Oh and SD fans… keep in mind he had for all practicality a rookie QB this year.
Second, if you have two great head coaching prospects in-house, why do you let them go…THEN fire Marty?[/quote]
I’m not saying whether I agree with it or not – don’t get me wrong. I’m just communicating the hubbub around SD.
In the end, that 5-13 playoff record trumps a COY award from yesteryear in the minds of those writing the checks. And he had a pro-bowl quarterback and the same backfield last year and was a doormat.
A good take on the situation:
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070213/SPT0301/702130317/1035/SPT
[quote]sdspeedracer wrote:
UtahLama wrote:
Sorry not buying that it was Marty’s fault…
2004 AP NFL Coach of Year
2004 Pro Football Weekly
NFL Coach of Year
2004 Maxwell Football Club
NFL Coach of Year
1995 UPI NCL COY (AFC)
1986 UPI AFC
Coach of the Year
205-139-1 Record.
Looks like a pretty damn good background to me.
Oh and SD fans… keep in mind he had for all practicality a rookie QB this year.
Second, if you have two great head coaching prospects in-house, why do you let them go…THEN fire Marty?
I’m not saying whether I agree with it or not – don’t get me wrong. I’m just communicating the hubbub around SD.
In the end, that 5-13 playoff record trumps a COY award from yesteryear in the minds of those writing the checks. And he had a pro-bowl quarterback and the same backfield last year and was a doormat.
A good take on the situation:
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070213/SPT0301/702130317/1035/SPT[/quote]
All I really wonder is, why give him a bogus extension (1 million dollar buy-out) thereby pissing off all your veteran players (who love Marty).
Then let go all your top in-house coaching prospects.
Then blame it all on Marty.
A.J’s got some splannin’ to do.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
sdspeedracer wrote:
UtahLama wrote:
All I really wonder is, why give him a bogus extension (1 million dollar buy-out) thereby pissing off all your veteran players (who love Marty).
Then let go all your top in-house coaching prospects.
Then blame it all on Marty.
A.J’s got some splannin’ to do.[/quote]
No argument.
But then again, the glory of being AJ (or Spanos, for that matter) is not having to explain your rationale for much of anything. All I can be absolutely sure of is that there had to be (large) egos involved, and much of the watercooler talk in SD is happy with the move.
[quote]sdspeedracer wrote:
UtahLama wrote:
sdspeedracer wrote:
UtahLama wrote:
All I really wonder is, why give him a bogus extension (1 million dollar buy-out) thereby pissing off all your veteran players (who love Marty).
Then let go all your top in-house coaching prospects.
Then blame it all on Marty.
A.J’s got some splannin’ to do.
No argument.
But then again, the glory of being AJ (or Spanos, for that matter) is not having to explain your rationale for much of anything. All I can be absolutely sure of is that there had to be (large) egos involved, and much of the watercooler talk in SD is happy with the move.
[/quote]
I can’t blame you there…all that talent and no playoff wins.
I’m a 49er fan, I just wish we HAD these problems.
[quote]Mod Laurie wrote:
It’s unfortunate the Chargers watited to fire Marty until AFTER they let Cam Cameron and Wade Phillips go.[/quote]
Absolutely. Your coaching staff isn’t supposed to get raided until after you’ve won the championship, or at least reached the game.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
I think Mike Martz would be an interesting hire. He could do wonders with this extremely talented offensive team. Remember what a weapon Faulk was?Also, San Diego’s defense is much better than the Rams teams he took to the Superbowl.[/quote]
As a Rams fan (and Martz apologist), I would say an effective Mad Mike offense needs plenty of WRs (both speed and possession guys) and an O-Line that is excellent in pass protection. Doesnt’ exactly describe the current SD squad.
[quote]sdspeedracer wrote:
swivel wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Marty’s poor playoff history is well known but to fire a coach after a 14-2 season is bizarre.
i agree. it’s not like the chargers are ever going to do better than that.
On the contrary, the ownership believes that the reason for the 14-win season was Marty’s assistants; when four of them left after the season ended, ownership blamed Marty for not being able to retain those that made the difference this season.
To the ownership, it was just another symptom of his lack of control, not too much unlike having d-backs intercepting 4th down passes and trying to run with them or head-butting opponents in front of the ref after the play had ended. High school teams know better, and the buck stops at the coach.[/quote]
Since when is it the head coach’s fault when assistants leave? If anything it should be considered a good point for him that he was able to groom them into higher positions.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
For the people in North Carolina and in the know about the ACC:
Haven’t there been whisperings that the Tar Heels REALLY want Cowher, and that informal discussions have been going on?
Mufasa[/quote]
Didn’t they just hire Butch Davis?
john d:
You could very well be right. I haven’t been able to get the latest updates.
I’ll do a little research.
Mufasa
You’re right, John…
Here is the article and Davis’s resume:
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/davis_butch00.html
Mufasa
[quote]superdad4 wrote:
sdspeedracer wrote:
swivel wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Since when is it the head coach’s fault when assistants leave? If anything it should be considered a good point for him that he was able to groom them into higher positions.
[/quote]
No doubt – Marty defended it as good career development of his employees, as it were. Can’t disagree with him, really, but the owners seem to have taken it as the real coaching talent walking out the door.
Frankly, I don’t think it would have mattered much what Marty did; the ownership was clearly looking for an excuse to dump him, especially after he nixed the extension.