“Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it”
― Thomas Sowell
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So rather than produce sayings why don’t you tell me what is wrong with the workers owning the means of production.
Nothing, that’s possible in a capitalist society. There is literally nothing stopping a group of works from collectively owning a business and the underlying means of production. It’s called a co-op. You can start one now.
Have fun with risk and capital.
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Zep,
Good luck trying to get workers to agree on what direction the production should go. It’s hard to get a 10-member board to agree, imagine trying to get 50 workers to agree on something.
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Exactly. That is the beauty of free market capitalism. Freedom, not force. Zeppelin can have his co-op organic grocery store with 20 people owning the “means of production.” Whether it is financially feasible, the market will determine.
on paper, socialism and communism work great
once you add PEOPLE to it ,both systems go to s–t pretty quick
Huge surprise
http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/03/heres-how-to-magically-turn-young-socialists-into-capitalists/
First off the question needs to be answered how and whom the taxes are raised on and by how much? To say that taxes will be raised and base an opinion around it is very vague. More specifics are needed for this to be valid.
Well Bernie’s plan raises the payroll tax on all income 2.2%, adds four more tax brackets and an employer payroll tax of 6.2%
Looks like he plans to make the “means of production” more expensive for you and your co-op coffee shop buddies.
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The income gap has hardly grown “substantially”:
http://interactive.taxfoundation.org/income-tax-illustrated/#income-taxes-illustrated
Dude, I cannot believe you actually do all the work to prove ol’ Zepp wrong…every time, just to watch him ignore your perfect response to his bullshit.
You have far more patience with him than most.
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What is your example of a successful and prosperous, socialist country?
I know, I know. Fighting the good fight and all that I guess, lol… 
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It’d be one thing if Zep was an actual rational person capable of considering the alternative. Nah, that dude put all his chips on red and lettin’ it ride.
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I can’t help it, I repeated Adam Smith’s name three times in a mirror and have since been indoctrinated by The Wealth of Nations
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